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No. 10
Old Aug 09, 2009, 02:06 AM

Default Re: What time do you expect your relief nurse to show up?
Originally Posted by mykidzmom View Post
maybe you could try telling whoever has control to change the situation. but instead of putting it on the perps, put it on yourself. "i need to know if it is inappropriate for me to clock in at 5:45 to get report, because i don't want to seem like i am trying to sneak in extra time. since the other shift comes in at 0610, then i don't get out of work till ______ which looks like more extra time. i like having a little extra money, but i like to go home too --plus my kid needs to be picked up/my dog needs to be walked/my gym closes early/whatever...so if i need to make special arrangements for my life (regarding previous examples) i just want to know. am i doing something wrong with my time? no? then can you help me figure out the best way to help my co workers be on time? *managers tend to prefer can-you-help-me-solve-the-problem more than waah waah they come in late and it's not fair.

maybe that's too much info. sorry. i hate it when you try to do the right thing an someone you rely on doesn't do the right thing, but doesn't really care they aren't doing the right thing.
no need to go into so much detail, no one needs to know why you need to clock in on time and leave on time- its your right and you need not justify it or it becomes a contest as to whose needs are greater- "well you're just walking the dog, my babysitter has to come from dialysis and cant start before ---"..
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No. 11
from LyndzBenz
Old Aug 09, 2009, 03:11 AM

First Aid Re: What time do you expect your relief nurse to show up?
On a late day, I do get to my floor right at 6:45pm, but most of the time I am there by 6:30pm. I do expect that my relief nurse be here for me by 0645 but on some days that isn't very realistic. One day my car ran hot, and if I didn't leave at my usual 6pm, I would have been much later. It is kind of good to get there early. And if you have some time to kill, get a coffee or just take your time getting to the floor that you work on. It never hurts to be early, even if you have to wait on the time clock to clock in. It makes the day go smoother to get there early. Or at least in my opinion.
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No. 12
from mykidzmom
Old Aug 09, 2009, 03:22 AM

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achot chave: sorry that my examples made it seem like the examples themselves were important. it doesn't matter why we need to leave on time. she could say her laxative starts working about the time she would get home if she left on time. the idea was to soften the "tattling" on the constantly late by offering to change my schedule since it seems appropriate to come in at 0610. we all know it ISN"T ok to come in at 0610, but this way i'm trying to fit into the culture of the unit. yes, it might be a bit too much. i'm sure it's a bit too much. but i just find that when it comes to something that could be perceived as whining or tattling (even if justified) finding way s to soften it and work it has a better effect with those can't-be-bothered management types. it wasn't meant to be a pis**ing contest over whose needs are more important . what i mean is always perfectly clear in my own mind---sometimes it doesn't come out as such. but thanks for reading and taking the time to comment.
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No. 13
Old Aug 09, 2009, 04:26 AM
Updated Aug 09, 2009 at 04:33 AM by achot chavi

Default Re: What time do you expect your relief nurse to show up?
[quote=mykidzmom;3792928] she could say her laxative starts working about the time she would get home if she left on time.

very cute. :-)...but again - way too much information!!

Yes managers love it when you can solve the problem, but I dont think that the onus is on the OP to solve the problem, she needs to set limits to the nurse coming in late.

That is why I suggested first approaching the nurse herself, if that doesnt help then approach the supervisor explaining "I dont mind being flexible if need be, but I want to bring to your attention that "Jane" (fill in the name) is consistently late causing me to work overtime. I approached her and she doesnt seem to be able to work out her schedule in order to come on time. What do you suggest I do?"

It is not whining to complain about a nurse who is habitually late.
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No. 14
from Ruby Vee
Old Aug 09, 2009, 11:02 AM

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I don't care what time the relief nurse shows up as long as they're standing in front of me with pencil poised, ready to take report on the dot of 7. Our shift is 7-7, and I expect to start giving report at 7. Unfortunately the ones who are habitually late are the ones with the most seniority.
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No. 15
from wonderbee
Old Aug 09, 2009, 11:26 AM

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Directly and succinctly communicate your desire to be relieved at the scheduled time. There is nothing rude or offensive about stating the obvious.
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No. 16
from FLArn
Old Aug 09, 2009, 11:54 AM

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I don't care what time they get to work as long as I'm done with report by 7:15 (I work 11-7) I don't come in most nights until 10:45 because if you come in earlier the pm shift wants you to start count and report the minute you hit the door -- sometimes they get out before we are even supposed to be there! We have written time cards not a punch clock. Not a problem but they are always ready to go out the door when we get there(sitting waiting for us) but have a list of things they "didn't get to because they were SOOO busy! If you're so busy- how come you sitting around waiting on me??? Oh well that's another rant for another day
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No. 17
from vsink
Old Aug 10, 2009, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by HM2Viking View Post
If you're not 10 minutes early you are late for work....
I expect my relief to show up at the scheduled time! I do not arrive 10minutes early and do not consider myself late if I don't. If the employer wants me there to give report ten minutes early, then I will be on the clock! If you are injured during that time frame, your employer is not responsible because you are off the clock. If I am scheduled at 6 am , I do not clock in until 6 am! This bs of working off the clock has got to stop! Besides, is it not illegal to work off the clock and why do so many nurses continue to do it? And the employers expect it! It is Bulls**t and has to STOP! The only way to change it is for all nurses to ban together and refuse to work off the clock. It totally drives me crazy when nurses come in off the clock early to "get ready", why would you give your employer all that time, don't you think that your family deserves that time, or even you, yourself deserve that time. Seriously. we've got to stop this practice of giving all this time away. There is no human way to get everything done in the alloted time frame and the employers know this and as long as you are willing to work for free, it will continue. Curious as to how others feel about this.
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No. 18
from mappers
Old Aug 10, 2009, 08:08 AM

Default Re: What time do you expect your relief nurse to show up?
I didn't say I expect people to get their 10 minutes early to work. I said I expected them to get there 5 - 10 minutes early so they are ready to take report at the aloted time. Most people I know who show up at the aloted time (6:45 in our case) are not ready to take report at 6:45. They still have to put their purse away, etc. We can clock in at 6:30, so if you want to try to get organized before 6:45 you can. Now there are some who come in earlier, but it isn't me.
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No. 19
Old Aug 10, 2009, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by vsink View Post
I expect my relief to show up at the scheduled time! I do not arrive 10minutes early and do not consider myself late if I don't. If the employer wants me there to give report ten minutes early, then I will be on the clock! If you are injured during that time frame, your employer is not responsible because you are off the clock. If I am scheduled at 6 am , I do not clock in until 6 am! This bs of working off the clock has got to stop! Besides, is it not illegal to work off the clock and why do so many nurses continue to do it? And the employers expect it! It is Bulls**t and has to STOP! The only way to change it is for all nurses to ban together and refuse to work off the clock. It totally drives me crazy when nurses come in off the clock early to "get ready", why would you give your employer all that time, don't you think that your family deserves that time, or even you, yourself deserve that time. Seriously. we've got to stop this practice of giving all this time away. There is no human way to get everything done in the alloted time frame and the employers know this and as long as you are willing to work for free, it will continue. Curious as to how others feel about this.
I also refuse to work off the clock. I am not allowed to clock in until 6 minutes before the start of shift. So, I don't start getting ready for report until after I am clocked in. I used to clock in 20 min early but used that time to read my monitor strips, read through my kardex & prepare to receive report. When they told us we were not allowed to clock in early, I quit starting early.

Now I am on a different unit. Our practice is that the charge nurse comes in 20 min before the rest of the shift, gets report from the off-going charge nurse, then the oncoming shift gets a 30-second or so report on all the pts in the unit from the charge nurse starting at 645. Then, we pick our own pt assignment and are out to get report on our pts by 7. So, if you are late, everyone on your own shift not only sees that you are late, but is also waiting for you so everyone can get started with their day. We have zero problem with habitual lateness.
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