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No. 10
from Charmander
Old Sep 10, 2009, 08:15 PM

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most states have an assisted living, nursing home, senior citizen or long term care ombudsman, who basically is the 'people's representative'. they have the connections and resources to make things happen. this is atrocious. next time your there, find out who accredits them, should be on a wall or a pamphlet- and find out what their standards are. report them to everyone... and / or write a letter to your local paper.... bad press usually helps things along. keep being a great advocate for your grandmother... and good luck.
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Old Sep 13, 2009, 10:21 AM

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Report, report, report. This is abuse, pure and simple.
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No. 12
Old Sep 13, 2009, 03:11 PM

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Report this immediately and then find another facility. There is absolutely no reason why anyone should be "rationed" incontinence products. Not only is this a dignity issue but she is at such risk for skin breakdown and infection.
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No. 13
from husker_rn
Old Sep 14, 2009, 09:44 AM

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I worked in a facility that limited briefs too. Would have to call in the manager of the supply room to get us more and she got pretty irate. Acted like the $$$ came out of her pocket; I didn't care, residents were my priority not $$$
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No. 14
from pca_85
Old Sep 14, 2009, 09:48 AM

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3 in 24 hours in unrealistic, no wonder shes breaking down. I feel so bad for you guys. I'd report the hell out of that place, the state takes things like this very seriously.
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No. 15
Old Sep 14, 2009, 10:18 AM

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Please report the facility to the state.
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No. 16
Old Sep 15, 2009, 08:14 AM

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add my name to the list of answers advising you to report and consider a better facility. We too try to limit diapers to 3 a day (Q8H) and allow a 4th for PRN/BM. BUT, we stock multiple sizes and if a pt needs more 3, it is allowed. Esp. a pt who is trying to care for herself, this should be encouraged and remind the staff how much they save in staff time by her self-care and how much is wasted in laundry and changing by her current situation of dirtying her entire room.

This is inhumane ( abuse, neglect etc) and I am surprised that the SW doesn't have what to say about this.

While writing a letter to the local paper (even anonymously) might make you feel better in the short run, it can make things uncomfortable in the LTC should you decide to keep her there, and the truth is there is little they can do,
Better to report it to the proper authorities who CAN actually help and Heaven Help Them if the staff start treating your Mom differently because of the report, as then you will report them to the police etc. If you need help finding phone numbers, ask the SW or check on line for your states hotline.
I am SO sorry your Mom and you have to deal with this, not all facilities are like this although budget cutting measures would like us to be!!
GOOD LUCK!
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No. 17
Old Sep 15, 2009, 09:09 AM
Updated Sep 15, 2009 at 09:21 AM by wherehastimegone

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Thanks all for validating what I thought. I have reported it both to the VP of the company that runs the LTC facility and to the provincial body that governs LTC and have had calls back from both. The company has one week to resolve the issues or the province will step in and mandate what needs to be done.

I am very hesitant to move her as she doesn't handle change. She has been in this place a long time, knows everyone and the area and doesn't want to move. Last time we moved her rooms within the facility she became very disoriented and upset and it took 2-3 months to get her settled back down. The good news is that she is 'with it' so if they treat her any differently or casue her any problems - she'll tell me!

Just to add - I do think the staff could do more for her but for the most part the nurses and the majority of the PSW's who work there have been great. It is management / admin and their policies that I have the problems with. Staff are scared to do anything as they get in trouble alot. They also no longer have access to the room where the extra briefs are stored. Management there does NOT treat their staff well and they are always short staffed.
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No. 18
Old Sep 15, 2009, 12:44 PM

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I am sure that must have been a difficult move but a brave one, and you are right, it is not the nursing staff or the CNA's but management at the core of this specific problem and I understand your reluctance to move your Mother...
BTW when management doesn't treat the staff "right" I have to wonder what else they dont treat "right" believe me it doesn't end with the staff. (example- short cuts in the kitchen..., limiting the doctors regarding what treatment they can do...)
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No. 19
Old Sep 15, 2009, 05:15 PM

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I've never seen in any state manual a regulation for how many briefs each resident gets...or what size.
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