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No. 10
from Moogie
Old Jul 04, 2009, 07:44 PM

Default Re: What do you think about universal workers in LTC?
The concept of universal workers was presented to me by a non-nursing administrator in a LTC. This administrator thought it was a "peachy keen" idea because a worker could do a few hours helping in dietary, a few hours taking care of residents, a few hours working in housekeeping---all in the course of one 8 or 12 hour shift. To me, this seemed like a nightmare, especially in terms of infection control. I have serious concerns about one staff member helping residents get up in the morning then switching off to food preparation or serving food later in the same shift. Passing out prepackaged snacks---that's different. Serving hot food in a dining room----that's a whole 'nuther matter.

Now, the way that it's presented by posters such as CCM, it makes sense. I don't have a problem with someone being cross-trained to various departments, especially in a small LTC that might not have a huge pool of workers from which to choose. It would also be beneficial to workers who need extra hours but can't get them just in one department. But, as CCM said, the "universal worker" would then work only ONE department each shift and not get pulled from one area to another within the same shift. That's common sense and, utilized wisely, the universal worker concept could benefit interested workers and facilities, resulting in higher retention and better quality of care.

I can also see where the concept of universal workers might be useful in ALFs in which the residents would require minimal assistance with their ADL's. It also seems like it could work in ALFs that are divided into small pods.

Anyway, as presented by this administrator, the concept of universal workers in LTC sounded like yet another way to get by with short staffing various departments because someone could theoretically be "pulled" from one area to another. BTW, that administrator once told me about a "study" that showed how nursing personnel in LTC only spent something like 50% of their time productively. Common sense is apparently rather uncommon, at least among some of the PTB.

Thanks for the responses!
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No. 11
Old Jul 04, 2009, 07:53 PM
Updated Jul 04, 2009 at 07:55 PM by CapeCodMermaid

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I wonder if the people who did that study thought it was 'productive' when a CNA or nurse spent half an hour with a resident when they were alone and in the process of dieing.
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No. 12
from caliotter3
Old Jul 05, 2009, 12:07 AM

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I've done plumbing as well as floor mopping in the middle of the night even though I'm a nurse. Done out of necessity. Can't see this being done on a regular basis and working the way it would "on paper". I can see the problems with infection control and too much for one person to be responsible for. When I was a CNA, we were not able to get all of our residents fed with proper assistance. Add to that preparing the meal and cleaning the room and doing laundry too. Just too much.
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No. 13
from noc4senuf
Old Jul 06, 2009, 07:27 AM

Default Re: What do you think about universal workers in LTC?
I have seen how this is done in a brand new facility that I toured a couple of months ago. They have "neighborhoods" of 10 beds each. The unit I toured was the TCU. It had 2 workers for the 10 beds. They did all personal cares, served the meals that were brought to their own kitchen, at breakfast did the actual frying of the eggs, etc; They had their own washer and dryer that they washed each resident's clothes (linens were send out). It seems to be working out quite well for them. I do not know the staffing on LTC areas.

The nurse does not have a desk on the neighborhood, it is away in a central area and she acts like a visiting nurse to keep the unit as homelike as possible.
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No. 14
from Moogie
Old Jul 06, 2009, 03:20 PM

Default Re: What do you think about universal workers in LTC?
Originally Posted by noc4senuf View Post
I have seen how this is done in a brand new facility that I toured a couple of months ago. They have "neighborhoods" of 10 beds each. The unit I toured was the TCU. It had 2 workers for the 10 beds. They did all personal cares, served the meals that were brought to their own kitchen, at breakfast did the actual frying of the eggs, etc; They had their own washer and dryer that they washed each resident's clothes (linens were send out). It seems to be working out quite well for them. I do not know the staffing on LTC areas.

The nurse does not have a desk on the neighborhood, it is away in a central area and she acts like a visiting nurse to keep the unit as homelike as possible.
I could see it working in a situation like you describe, in which the actual physical facility is set up to be more homelike and less like an institution. I can't see it in a more traditional facility that, well, looks and is set up like an institution.
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No. 15
Old Jul 06, 2009, 03:30 PM

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My workplace does this with the CNAs.

The company will hire people off the street, get them certified as CNAs, then cross-train them in housekeeping, laundry, transportation, and dietary. The cross-trained people rotate every few weeks.

They'll spend a month on the floor working as a CNA, then be rotated into the kitchen for a month, then work as a housekeeper for another month, and so on. Since the cross-trained worker isn't working in all 4 departments in the same day, the risk of cross contamination is minimal.

It also reduces burnout, because the employee is not in the same area for months or years. So far, management has been able to retain staff by having universal workers.
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No. 16
from Moogie
Old Jul 06, 2009, 05:52 PM

Default Re: What do you think about universal workers in LTC?
Originally Posted by TheCommuter View Post
My workplace does this with the CNAs.

The company will hire people off the street, get them certified as CNAs, then cross-train them in housekeeping, laundry, transportation, and dietary. The cross-trained people rotate every few weeks.

They'll spend a month on the floor working as a CNA, then be rotated into the kitchen for a month, then work as a housekeeper for another month, and so on. Since the cross-trained worker isn't working in all 4 departments in the same day, the risk of cross contamination is minimal.

It also reduces burnout, because the employee is not in the same area for months or years. So far, management has been able to retain staff by having universal workers.
I think that sounds like an innovative approach to staffing, one that provides for excellent care and increased worker satisfaction.

The administrator with whom I spoke with about universal staffing, however, saw nothing wrong with rotating people through different departments in the course of one shift.
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No. 17
Old Jul 06, 2009, 06:15 PM

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moogie, the LTC facility i last worked had CNA work on the floor doing patient care , pass breakfast, lunch, dinner in dining room, clean tables, pick up dirty silverware etc...during meal times, the bed bound residents who stay in room are under the care of the nurse...meaning we dont have cna during meal times...we are one staff/RN in floor while the cnas serve the food...restaurant style...from table to table like waitress taking orders and serving them food from table to table.
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No. 18
from fuzzywuzzy
Old Jul 07, 2009, 11:27 AM

Default Re: What do you think about universal workers in LTC?
Originally Posted by Moogie View Post
BTW, that administrator once told me about a "study" that showed how nursing personnel in LTC only spent something like 50% of their time productively.
whaaat? how can that be? lol.
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No. 19
Old Jul 07, 2009, 04:35 PM

Default Re: What do you think about universal workers in LTC?
Originally Posted by Moogie
BTW, that administrator once told me about a "study" that showed how nursing personnel in LTC only spent something like 50% of their time productively.
Originally Posted by fuzzywuzzy View Post
whaaat? how can that be? lol.
They must have been referring to all of that time we spend running up and down the halls. What a waste of time! If only we could "beam" ourselves around the unit?
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