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May 30, 2009 08:44 PM

overheard a CNA badly verbally abusing an elderly patient

Updated May 30, 2009 at 08:49 PM by sirI

As The Charge Nurse in a facility, where I was passing meds in the hall, and overheard a CNA badly verbally abusing an elderly patient, there was another witness also. TY cyndi_1985


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from caliotter3
Old May 30, 2009, 08:55 PM

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Since you have not confronted the individual yet, I would write down the circumstances and take it to the supervisor. The supervisor will handle it or you can get her to be present when you confront the person who did this. The supervisor should be consulted because the facility management will probably want to fire the CNA. Don't waste more time dealing with this. Act now.
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from Cyndi_1985
Old May 30, 2009, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by caliotter3 View Post
Since you have not confronted the individual yet, I would write down the circumstances and take it to the supervisor. The supervisor will handle it or you can get her to be present when you confront the person who did this. The supervisor should be consulted because the facility management will probably want to fire the CNA. Don't waste more time dealing with this. Act now.
I did report it immediately, I called another Nurse from another floor and exspressed my concern, we called the ADON at home, and she said to send the CNA home immediately, and write down what happened, this CNA from what I understand has been reported before by other Nurses for the same thing,, it was night shift, and the Cna was called in the next day along with the other witness that heard her, I understand,, they told this CNA she only had 3 days off, and it bothers me because this is patient abuse, and I immediately reported it, I have a license to protect,, what bothers me the most is: Other Nurses told me the facility doesn't do much, and actually listen to CNA's over Nurses. I am very concerned about this. She has deliberately shut lights off on me while I am passing meds, and also I put that in writing, prior to the verbal abuse I heard , the week before she had to be written up, nothing was done then either. I need answers, I will not let one of my CNA's abuse one of my elderly patients, and yet the facility is not doing anything. I always thought, you abuse a patient ,, you get fired. As I said this is not her first write up for this. She had the patient crying all night, and I would like to know what to do. Thanks
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Old May 30, 2009, 09:07 PM

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Find another job.
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from Cyndi_1985
Old May 30, 2009, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by caliotter3 View Post
Find another job.
The town I live in does not have many jobs for Nurses, you need to travel at least 60 miles, this is ridiculous, I have 2 Teens I leave at home while at work, being a single Mom, I need to be near them. Isn't there a place I can go to to find out what the laws are on verbal abuse to a patient? I can not afford to drive real far from home to work, this is a good job for me, and leaving, is not good, and actually to me,, it is letting the facility condone abuse. I moved here from New York, I know in New York a CNA would be fired immediately for abuse. Sorry,, I just am overwhelmed,,, why as a Charge Nurse should I be the one to go? Thanks
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Old May 30, 2009, 10:46 PM

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To be honest, if the facillity is ignoring all other write-ups, I am not quite sure what you can do. Here is a link for reporting problems, however it is very likely the facillity will know who reported and fire you unless there are other instances since they can focus on.

http://www.ltcombudsman.org/static_pages/ombudsmen.cfm
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from Cyndi_1985
Old May 30, 2009, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Straydandelion View Post
To be honest, if the facillity is ignoring all other write-ups, I am not quite sure what you can do. Here is a link for reporting problems, however it is very likely the facillity will know who reported and fire you unless there are other instances since they can focus on.

http://www.ltcombudsman.org/static_pages/ombudsmen.cfm
Thank You!
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from nursel56
Old May 30, 2009, 11:40 PM

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My heart goes out to you. You are in a very tough situation. It might seem like small comfort at this point, but saying a prayer for you.
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Old May 31, 2009, 12:40 AM
Updated May 31, 2009 at 12:47 AM by Vito Andolini

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Originally Posted by Cyndi_1985 View Post
The town I live in does not have many jobs for Nurses, you need to travel at least 60 miles, this is ridiculous, I have 2 Teens I leave at home while at work, being a single Mom, I need to be near them. Isn't there a place I can go to to find out what the laws are on verbal abuse to a patient? I can not afford to drive real far from home to work, this is a good job for me, and leaving, is not good, and actually to me,, it is letting the facility condone abuse. I moved here from New York, I know in New York a CNA would be fired immediately for abuse. Sorry,, I just am overwhelmed,,, why as a Charge Nurse should I be the one to go? Thanks
That is the reality. The facility talks a good talk, threatening severe repercussions for abuse or neglect of patients. But they lack the guts to actually walk the walk, even in New York, I dare say. They might counsel the offenders, they might terminate them or let them resign. But they seem to not want to report them to the authorities. They probably fear retaliation directed at them personally or as a facility, so do not report. Just guessing.

When rules are made, it's always the CN who has to enforce them, as the CN's are on the front line and are the ones who usually see or hear the offenses. But then Management doesn't back up its Charge Nurses. These managers should burn in the everlasting fires of hell.

Decide now that you will either shut your mouth and close your eyes and put your family's wellbeing first, or report these wrongdoers yourself, since your facility won't. You had better think long and hard, whichever way you choose to deal with it. Talk with legal counsel, spiritual counsel, etc. Best wishes. I know it's really miserable having to decide, having to report, not being backed up, seeing it all continue. I guess you could go over your boss' head. Another dilemma. Just what you needed.
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Old May 31, 2009, 12:58 AM

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You can always report this to the state BON, as CNAs are just as accountable as nurses. And if the facility allows the CNA to continue in this fashion, I'd report it to your state's senior and disabled services agency........anonymously, of course.........who knows what else is going on when the powers that be are looking the other way?
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