Is This Illegal? - page 3

:uhoh21: I am an RN DON at a rural nursing home of about 45 residents. We are currently getting ready to move to a new nursing home in town. We have an interim administrator and he asked me to do... Read More

  1. by   HannahRN24
    Yeah I tried to talk to a superior administrator and they know all about it...apparently that is just common practice...and I talked to some of the older nurses, and they said that they see this sort of thing in alot of nursing homes....Louisiana is not the best place to have a family member in a nursing home!
  2. by   Monica RN,BSN
    As they say.. if it doesn't seem right... it probably isn't. Though one could enjoy extra pay, but I am quite sure you are probably salary, so there isn't extra pay... just the same it is definately illegal. If you had a grudge against this administrator, you could have HIS license in trouble for reporting this. Save your license and your integrity, and don't do it.
  3. by   rstewart
    Quote from HannahRN24
    Yeah I tried to talk to a superior administrator and they know all about it...apparently that is just common practice...and I talked to some of the older nurses, and they said that they see this sort of thing in alot of nursing homes....Louisiana is not the best place to have a family member in a nursing home!

    I think it's clear that your days are numbered with this company; my advice is to disassociate yourself from these slimeballs immediately before you end up without a license or are excluded from Medicare participation as a provider.

    The fact is their scheme is going to blow up in their faces; Surveyers let a good deal slip by them, but it is clear that they are on to something here.

    Act now and inform all relevant licensure Boards and your employer in writing by certified/return receipt mail why you must resign your position in order to preserve your unemployment benefits.
  4. by   night owl
    Quote from HannahRN24
    :uhoh21: State came in around Christmas and wrote us up for not having weekend RN coverage every weekend. My new administrator asked me to come in this weekend and clock in and out for Sat. and Sun. but not to stay....just to clock in so it looks like I was there.
    Well now, I wonder what he's smokin'?
  5. by   lovingtheunloved
    If they'll cut corners like that, they aren't particularly concerned with the welfare of their residents are they? That's an administrator that REALLY REALLY wants to get sued huh?
  6. by   LPN1974
    I think I'd run for the hills as fast as I could. Someone who would lie like that......I wouldn't put it past him to go in and clock YOUR time card HIMSELF, if you refused.

    Another thought....I wonder what he'd say, if you responded, "Well, put that request in writing and I'll consider it." {Of course, knowing you wouldn't, but just to see what he'd say if asked to put it in writing.}
    He's a sleaze for even asking you to do such a thing. Like someone else said, no telling what else he lies about.
  7. by   Simplepleasures
    bumped to top, I guess Im trying to get an in depth discussion going on INTEGRITY in management / administration , what is your opinion?
  8. by   jetscreamer101
    You know, I called my new DON on a saturday and told her she didm't have RN coverage for sunday. I was working the floor, but she had me call EVERY RN that works there, even the QA nurse and stuff. She couldn't find someone so she cam in sunday for several hours and did "paperwork" for a few hours with her kids in tow. It's just not right
  9. by   Kait
    Don't do it! It's illegal, unethical... And if you something happened and you were caught, do you think your administrator would stand up for you, even though he asked you to do it? Not a chance...I'm sure he'd hang you out to dry!!
  10. by   ajaxgirl
    Quote from HannahRN24
    :uhoh21: I am an RN DON at a rural nursing home of about 45 residents. We are currently getting ready to move to a new nursing home in town. We have an interim administrator and he asked me to do something I don't feel comfortable about doing. State came in around Christmas and wrote us up for not having weekend RN coverage every weekend. My new administrator asked me to come in this weekend and clock in and out for Sat. and Sun. but not to stay....just to clock in so it looks like I was there. I can't work 7 days a week and they haven't hired anyone. I feel like this is lying and that I might be risking my licensure. Is this illegal? Could I lose my license? I don't want to lie. Any input would be much appreciated! Thanks!
    no, no, no
    run and fast
  11. by   NRSKarenRN
    Thread started January 2005. OP has not been back to update.
  12. by   firstaiddave907
    Sounds Illegal Big time and it is also fraud if it where me i wouldn't do it at all .
  13. by   jade101
    Your License is far too important. It may be difficult at times to just say that would be dishonest. But if you have a gut feeling that his/ her request was wrong, then go with your instinct. Instinct and intuiativeness are a must with nursing. Maybe it's time to move to a different job , or inform state board of his request. Just Remember always CYA!!!!:imbar Hope it all worked out.
    Last edit by jade101 on Jan 1, '07 : Reason: spelling oops

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