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No. 40
Old May 30, 2009, 11:11 PM

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I think next time we have to have hidden cameras on us before we report.
We have a no smoking policy in the facility which was not enforced ( the adm looked away) and when I started working I began enforcing it despite the threats that i am making enemies. It took hold and we are now really smoke free except our medical director, cook and once social worker who smoke freely. We had a CNA who would smoke while caring for the pt- literally cigarette in the mouth as he did a transfer, He also worked cleaning our Asst Adm home ( an ethical issue if I ever heard of one). My boss (DON) reported him smoking, got zero backing and it was her word vs his, so no reprimand. He was mocking her and killed whatever authority she had.
Some CNA's are like the mafia- protected,
We can focus on the good that we do for the patients and accept the fact that we cant change adm. who protect the bad apples at the expense of the pts and try to find a way around them or we can bail.
Good Luck.
BTW politics like this exists in the hospitals, clinics, and almost every other work place outside of nursing as well. It is not a perfect world we live in, But I empathize with you.
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No. 41
Old May 31, 2009, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by shannieliz View Post
I put nin my post that I partly did it to protect the pt, and to protect my job, when it comes to abuse you are obligated by law to report it, suspected or real. I could have lost my job and my license by not reporting, it would be the same as if I abused the resident myself.
But how would anyone know that you knew but didn't report?

In the future, just keep your mouth shut if you were not the primary witness. Your job was not at stake, I don't think, if you had no first hand knowledge of whatever these other people were allegedly saying or doing.
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No. 42
Old May 31, 2009, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by nursel56 View Post
So, it was the participants in the abuse themselves who reported to you in an effort to throw each other under the bus? Guess that plan didn't work out too well for them

That wasn't really clear in the first post. Under the circumstances I don't see that you had any choice in the matter. You did the right thing. Hope you're starting to feel better about it.
She had the choice to not report. The one who talked to her would likely not have thought to say, "Oh, I told her" while she was being terminated.

I agree that she did the morally and probably legally right thing but it stinks that she is suffering for trying to advocate for patients and support her family.
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No. 43
Old May 31, 2009, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Bellarubia18 View Post
The biggest mistake you made is that you reported something that you heard and didn't know of for a fact....even rumor mills cost people their jobs.

You also didn't do it to protect the patient...you did it to save your own job...so my question to you is: Why was your job at risk to start with? She did it for both reasons. Read her post to see why she feared her job was at risk.

I would never, ever go to a boss unless it was something I witnessed personally, because you never know what kind of toxic poison someone else is spilling out of their lips.

I don't know how old you are, but I would wager you are pretty young.

No need to bring age into it. It's not just younger people who dislike that others talk behind their backs. I also think that these people would not have been fired unless there was follow-up done and it was found out to be true. The nurse had a legal obligation to tell someone, and it was to go higher up.
who wants to remain friends with people who would emotionally abuse an elderly woman anyway?
It's pretty darned lonely to have no friends on the job.
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No. 44
from nursel56
Old May 31, 2009, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Vito Andolini View Post
But how would anyone know that you knew but didn't report?

In the future, just keep your mouth shut if you were not the primary witness. Your job was not at stake, I don't think, if you had no first hand knowledge of whatever these other people were allegedly saying or doing.

Perhaps you can sleep well at night without worrying whether the outgoing nurse would try to take you down with her. It's quite common for a fired employee (especially one who would abuse a resident) to create as much havoc as possible on their way out. Search "escorted to the door by security". Regardless, that's not really the point.

Through reading this thread and others similar, it seems like there's a really toxic culture in some facilities. I did assume that shannieliz was in a supervisory position, which imposes a greater accountability on her part. Either way, when someone compares a cna-don relationship to a protection racket, and others agree, I am missing something. I don't work in an LTC facility. I'll refrain from commenting any further.

CapeCodMermaid and Moogie: Thanks for your posts. Hope my family ends up in a facility with people like you in charge.
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No. 45
Old May 31, 2009, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Vito Andolini View Post
But how would anyone know that you knew but didn't report?

In the future, just keep your mouth shut if you were not the primary witness. Your job was not at stake, I don't think, if you had no first hand knowledge of whatever these other people were allegedly saying or doing.
Because some of us are honest and believe that we are obligated to report ( the law requires it). As previously stated, we report it as third hand, admitting that we did not witness it first hand. and then it is up to management to investigate and uncover the truth,

If there actually is abuse and we stood quiet, the pt suffers, and then we all suffer.
Better to err on the side of the pt. Imagine your mother being the patient!!!
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No. 46
from shannieliz
Old May 31, 2009, 03:55 PM

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The only thing that you can hope for in this situation is that someone else will hear her, and she will be fired. It has been my experience that people like that eventually weed themselves out. I would keep a close eye on her when you are working with her, and if possible do not assign her to care for this same elderly woman. If you hear her being abusive, send her a** home! Maybe after being send home repeatedly they may recognize that there is a problem!! Good luck, you did the right thing
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