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No. 20
from hotmama2be
Old Nov 06, 2008, 11:13 PM

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Its considered a restraint if all 4 rails are up according to OBRA and you need a doctors order to be able to use all 4 side rails . If you use just the 2 top rails via the head of bed its ok , I think putting the bed to absolute lowest position helps with falls because the distance is less to fall and put a foam pad on the floor by bed to break or facilitate the fall.
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No. 21
Old Dec 14, 2008, 09:27 PM

Side rails are case by case. Our environment is Acute!!! Hospice IPU with terminally restless, hepatic encephalopathy, psyche behavior pts that behavior health units have rejected, etc.
Low beds, mattresses on floor, etc are not an answer. They are inhumane, undignified, and put staff at a greater risk for injury.
We are left with inc. geri chair use, inc medication use, inc. use of staff.
Any suggestions on how to change this madness? (Besides ridding ourselves of the lawyers who have created this mess).
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No. 22
Old Dec 14, 2008, 09:37 PM

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What if a patient cannot express that right? Is that a right?!
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No. 23
Old Dec 15, 2008, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by hotmama2be View Post
Its considered a restraint if all 4 rails are up according to OBRA and you need a doctors order to be able to use all 4 side rails . If you use just the 2 top rails via the head of bed its ok , I think putting the bed to absolute lowest position helps with falls because the distance is less to fall and put a foam pad on the floor by bed to break or facilitate the fall.
If ONE rail keeps the person from getting out of the bed, then it is a restraint. You could put me in a bed with all 4 rails up and I'd still be able to get out....much the same as a recliner. If the patient could get up from the chair in any position, it's not a restraint...if they couldn't get up in any position or out of a regular chair it's not a restraint...it's all how that particular device affects that particular resident.
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No. 24
Old Dec 16, 2008, 05:16 AM

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What is / isn't a restraint is fixed by definition for most of the facilities we work at.

Regulators and / or legislation set the parameters for what constitutes a restraint in pretty much all our settings.
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No. 25
from justme1972
Old Dec 16, 2008, 05:45 AM

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I have heard something similar that is supposed to take place in our state come January 1st.

Even with "padding" on the floor, elderly clients who have osteoperosis will still break bones with the fall, no matter how much padding is placed there.

If they can break bones from pathological fractures..then why would the padding help?

It's one of those things that may take place, and then someone will wake up and realize that they didn't quite think it through.
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No. 26
Old Dec 16, 2008, 05:03 PM

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We use side rails, half rails, 1/4 rails. It is done if that is the resident's preference. We fill out a form that clearly states that the resident would like the rails. We also write that it is not used for restraining the resident, but for bed controls, to help with movement and positioning in bed. If the resident does not want side rails, then we do not use them.

We have been doing intensive teaching with residents and use of call light to ask for assistance. It seems to be working pretty well. Of course we will use low beds and lipped mattresses if needed provided it is what would be needed to protect the resident. Always have to be careful with the restraint issue. Even a lipped mattress can be considered one.

It is enough to pull your hair out.
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No. 27
Old Dec 16, 2008, 10:07 PM

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There seems to be many interpretations and varied ideas about what is a restraint. This tells me that we are subject to our employers rules and regs. Our company had a hefty lawsuit with a side rail incident, hence the knee jerk change of rules. I feel like non medical personal make these decisions without in the "trenches" feedback. For now we must conform, but how to fight for what is in best interest of patients is challenging.
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No. 28
Old Dec 17, 2008, 06:37 AM

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One of the most important aspects of using ANY restraint is the documentation. Restraints are permitted if you document everything else you've tried and the reason you need a restraint. And not everything is a restraint. We had one woman...every year the surveyors would pick her chart. She was relatively young AND retarded AND confined to a wheelchair. We had a zealot of a surveyor one year. She saw the woman sitting in her wheelchair with a tray in front of her. She went to the chart and didn't see any restraint documentation. She wanted to cite us. I said to her "the woman is non-ambulatory...couldn't get out of the chair if she wanted. It's all documented. AND she uses the tray only for bead making." Apparently the surveyor didn't believe me so off she goes to ask the resident. The resident looked at her and said "Are you blind? I can't get out of the damn chair anyway...do you want to take off the tray and see if I can walk? And where else could I do my bead work!!" We didn't get cited. It's all in the documentation...and in this case...ATTITUDE!
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No. 29
Old Dec 17, 2008, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by CapeCodMermaid View Post
One of the most important aspects of using ANY restraint is the documentation. Restraints are permitted if you document everything else you've tried and the reason you need a restraint. And not everything is a restraint. We had one woman...every year the surveyors would pick her chart. She was relatively young AND retarded AND confined to a wheelchair. We had a zealot of a surveyor one year. She saw the woman sitting in her wheelchair with a tray in front of her. She went to the chart and didn't see any restraint documentation. She wanted to cite us. I said to her "the woman is non-ambulatory...couldn't get out of the chair if she wanted. It's all documented. AND she uses the tray only for bead making." Apparently the surveyor didn't believe me so off she goes to ask the resident. The resident looked at her and said "Are you blind? I can't get out of the damn chair anyway...do you want to take off the tray and see if I can walk? And where else could I do my bead work!!" We didn't get cited. It's all in the documentation...and in this case...ATTITUDE!
on the documentation thing- and continue documenting it- we have to write in the pts chart once a week and renew the dr.'s order for restraints every 48 hours.
Re the young woman- If this is a repeated problem just have her sign a request for her lap tray to enable her to participate in activities such as beading (cards, cooking, drawing etc) .
I love how every one knows better than us how to do our jobs!!
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