Alert and oriented man in LTC abusive to staff - page 3

I want to know what are the staff's rights when it comes to being hit constantly by a man that is fully alert and oriented with no mental DX. He has hit, kicked and slap CNAs and nurses alike....our... Read More

  1. by   JDZ344
    Quote from amoLucia
    Best thing is to watch how fast manglement moves when one of them gets whacked! Worthy speed records get set!
    I've seen that happen!
    Last edit by JDZ344 on May 14, '14
  2. by   That Guy
    911. Dont put up with that ever. If they have no mental health issues and are just *******s, dont hesitate at all
  3. by   redhead_NURSE98!
    Quote from CapeCodMermaid
    A veil bed??? Im sure those arent't legal anywhere.
    I doubt they would still make and sell them then? Or that I still use them at least once a month on my med-surg floor!!

    The Posey Bed All Care Model - Posey Co.
  4. by   MichelleRN34
    They still have vail beds but restraint laws make it very hard to use them. I used them on inpatient neuroscience rehab with brain injury patients.
  5. by   pfongk
    I have never seen one of these beds in my life, It would've been great for a resident where I used to work who used to have such bad tremors she'd manage to get from the middle of 2 hospital beds next to each other, get over the bed-rails and end up on the floor. We actually had meetings regularly about her and what we could do to keep her safe.
  6. by   redhead_NURSE98!
    Quote from pfongk
    I have never seen one of these beds in my life, It would've been great for a resident where I used to work who used to have such bad tremors she'd manage to get from the middle of 2 hospital beds next to each other, get over the bed-rails and end up on the floor. We actually had meetings regularly about her and what we could do to keep her safe.
    I hadn't seen one, or even mittens for that matter, until I worked at my 2nd hospital. They are wonderful for patient safety IMO!
  7. by   CapeCodMermaid
    They aren't legal in skilled facilities.
  8. by   amoLucia
    WHAT are they??? Tried on google but couldn't find a picture. I'm guessing it's some kind of restrictive bed.
  9. by   morte
    Quote from amoLucia
    WHAT are they??? Tried on google but couldn't find a picture. I'm guessing it's some kind of restrictive bed.
    goggle veil+bed. apparently the arent made anymore...
  10. by   amoLucia
    tried again and saw a picture. TY
  11. by   MichelleRN34
    Quote from morte
    goggle veil+bed. apparently the arent made anymore...
    They are made. I used them at my last job on a neuroscience rehab for brain injury patients.
  12. by   cienurse
    If this resident is as alert and oriented as you say, then you have a right to call the police and charge him with assault. And I would let this resident know that is your plan if he puts his hands on you again. Maybe your management staff will wake up and do something when they've had to speak to the police about why they are allowing this patient to stay at the facility when he's assaulting everyone?! Census issues are no reason to allow your staff to be abused and assaulted. And there should be a number listed to your state agency on a bulletin board to be used in cases of abuse. This number is not just for residents! It's for anyone who is reporting ANY type of abuse. This patient is not appropriate for your facility and needs to be moved immediately before he hurts one of the other residents who are counting on you and your co-workers to protect them!
  13. by   cienurse
    BTW-I believe it is a "Vale" bed, named after the person who invented it. Mostly used in pediatrics but sometimes used in psych facilities in patients with multiple falls and no safety awareness. Must be assessed for, care planned, given consent for, re-evaluated frequently, and documented on every shift with fail! But can be used in extreme cases.

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