WOW.. two more failures and I'm out:( - page 2

So today, me and my partner go in to do positioning and bed bath check offs, today was our 2nd clinical, we started last Monday(me and my partner had to come back today b/c we moved to slow) So... Read More

  1. by   Race Mom
    In my 1st semester we were required to come to lab prepared, self taught, videos watched, chapters read. We went to lab, had a short lecture (10-20mins) mainly about why we need to do the things we are doing...not how to do them. Then it was off to practice and test when ready. No step-by-step taught, but tons of support. It really worked out well. Nursing school is so different. At first your mad that you have to teach yourself before going to class, but it becomes second nature and gives you a great foundation.
    Last edit by Race Mom on Aug 31, '06
  2. by   willdgate
    So, what did you need to know, just venting, huh. Get use to dealing with this stuff in nursing school, it happens all the way through it.
  3. by   allthingsbright
    Great advice...
    You definitely need to be on your toes--are you READING your assigned stuff--before lecture? Some programs do a little more handholding than others, but ultimately the learning lies in your hands. YOU need to read, watch videos, go to lab on your own time and ask for help, ask other classmates for help, take your instructor aside and tell him you WANT to learn and ask for his imput. It never slows down and each semester you will do more and more on your own. It IS overwhelming, but it CAN be done.

    Good luck to you. It sounds like you really want this badly. Be proactive, k?
    Last edit by allthingsbright on Aug 31, '06
  4. by   srg4784
    I emailed my instructor telling him how I feel and this is what his response was. Hearing everyones advice in the forum for me and his advice to me has made me feel alot better Thank you all and I hope by December I'll be posting on here that I made it through this semester. Good luck to everyone!


    Scarlett,
    You did not "slide by." you both have an unsuccessful attempt at bedbaths and bedmaking. Although your performance yesterday was substandard, I did not feel it was enough to fail you. You were at least able to verbalize what you needed to do. Your not wearing gloves during oral care put you more at risk than the patient. Had you endagered the patient, you would have failed. We evaluate students individually even
    when in pairs. I could see that your performance had improved and that you were more prepared than your partner. That is also partly why you were successful. As I told you yesterday, if either of you continue to not practice and to come to lab unprepared, you won't have to worry about "sliding by." You simply can't do the skills you have to do
    without practicing. As for being labled or singled out as failures, I believe each of you can be successful. Ironically, the student you reminded me of started exactly the same way. She and her partner came unprepared, failed the same checkoffs and got the same talk you got yesterday. She was able to turn it around and became an excellent student. She is now in forth semester and doing well. Perhaps I can have her talk with you. If you
    would take some suggestions, I suggest that you 1) move off the back row 2) Get motivated. Leave the flip flops and jeans at home. Checkoffs are still in the lab area so the rules still apply... I could have sent you home just based on your dress 3) Practice after classes. At least then you and your partner are here. If she won't come back another day, you come anyway. 4) Find those who are motivated and who are being successful and ask them if you can join them. If your partner fails, you will be placed
    with another group anyway. 5) DO SOMETHING EVERYDAY!!!! There is a lot to do and it can be overwhelming. Make it a goal to do something everyday. Read one chapter. Practice one skill. learn one type of math problem. etc. BUT DO SOMETHING!!! We are here to help you but only if you help yourself.
  5. by   allthingsbright
    Quote from srg4784
    I emailed my instructor telling him how I feel and this is what his response was. Hearing everyones advice in the forum for me and his advice to me has made me feel alot better Thank you all and I hope by December I'll be posting on here that I made it through this semester. Good luck to everyone!


    Scarlett,
    You did not "slide by." you both have an unsuccessful attempt at bedbaths and bedmaking. Although your performance yesterday was substandard, I did not feel it was enough to fail you. You were at least able to verbalize what you needed to do. Your not wearing gloves during oral care put you more at risk than the patient. Had you endagered the patient, you would have failed. We evaluate students individually even
    when in pairs. I could see that your performance had improved and that you were more prepared than your partner. That is also partly why you were successful. As I told you yesterday, if either of you continue to not practice and to come to lab unprepared, you won't have to worry about "sliding by." You simply can't do the skills you have to do
    without practicing. As for being labled or singled out as failures, I believe each of you can be successful. Ironically, the student you reminded me of started exactly the same way. She and her partner came unprepared, failed the same checkoffs and got the same talk you got yesterday. She was able to turn it around and became an excellent student. She is now in forth semester and doing well. Perhaps I can have her talk with you. If you
    would take some suggestions, I suggest that you 1) move off the back row 2) Get motivated. Leave the flip flops and jeans at home. Checkoffs are still in the lab area so the rules still apply... I could have sent you home just based on your dress 3) Practice after classes. At least then you and your partner are here. If she won't come back another day, you come anyway. 4) Find those who are motivated and who are being successful and ask them if you can join them. If your partner fails, you will be placed
    with another group anyway. 5) DO SOMETHING EVERYDAY!!!! There is a lot to do and it can be overwhelming. Make it a goal to do something everyday. Read one chapter. Practice one skill. learn one type of math problem. etc. BUT DO SOMETHING!!! We are here to help you but only if you help yourself.
    Sounds like he wants you to succeed. I would follow his advice! GL and let us know how it goes.
  6. by   suzy253
    He sounds reasonable to me and has given you some advice. Is there a dress code that you're not adhering to as well? Better take his advice on that as well and use your time wisely. Go in for practice, prepare yourself before, do your reading, etc. Bedbaths and bedmaking are basic skills and things will just get more intense as you go along so it would be beneficial to you to get yourself into good study and preparation habits for your nursing arts lab. Good luck.
  7. by   srg4784
    Quote from suzy253
    He sounds reasonable to me and has given you some advice. Is there a dress code that you're not adhering to as well? Better take his advice on that as well and use your time wisely. Go in for practice, prepare yourself before, do your reading, etc. Bedbaths and bedmaking are basic skills and things will just get more intense as you go along so it would be beneficial to you to get yourself into good study and preparation habits for your nursing arts lab. Good luck.
    Yeah, I'm glad I emailed him and he's emailed me again with advice and is very helpful. I had the wrong impression at first because I thought he was just being mean, but actually not! As far as the dress code, I figured it didn't matter because I was coming in not on my clinical day to do the checkoff. Now I know that even if it's not my scheduled day we have to be in uniform
  8. by   Asklepios
    He sounds like a tough instructor...but they are often that way for a reason. His response to you sounded very encouraging, but he also pointed out where you can improve and that means he is hoping you'll do what it takes to get better and make a good effort.

    As for your partner - I hope she will do okay, but if you are struggling and need to put more time in and she isn't even doing that, its not a good sign. Don't let her struggle become yours.

    Best of luck!!! :wink2:
  9. by   srg4784
    Me and my partner have really turned things around. We've passed all our skills checkoffs since then. WE have more confidence and our teacher is not a "meanie monster" to us anymore. Actually he's oen of the best teachers I've ever had, I'm partial to my micro teacher just bc that class was so interesting, but hey this is only the 5th week and I'm so glad things are going good for us now
  10. by   GeminiTwinRN
    that's terrific! i'm so glad for you (both)!! wtg!

    :kiss
  11. by   SoulShine75
    I have a question and I may have misunderstood, but...do you fail a skill because your partner is slow? If so, that's crap. Your ability to know and complete a skill shouldn't have anything to do with anyone else but you. Secondly....is this for an RN program?
  12. by   srg4784
    Quote from SoulShine75
    I have a question and I may have misunderstood, but...do you fail a skill because your partner is slow? If so, that's crap. Your ability to know and complete a skill shouldn't have anything to do with anyone else but you. Secondly....is this for an RN program?

    Well yeah, our first two labs (positioning and bed bath) were with your partner. Our instructor said our performance was substandard, we kept forgetting little things, so we failed. It wasn't that she was slow or that iI was slow. We just hadn't practiced "together" but did with other people because of our time issue. She works more during the week and has a 1y.o. I work on weekends (when she has time to practice and I live 45 mins away). So now we just stay after class on a M or T when were both there and practice. I'm glad our instructor scared the crap out of us bc since then we have both stepped it up big time shes doing great am really proud of her, as well myself am doing great.

    Yes this is the RN program.
  13. by   subee
    Quote from srg4784
    Me and my partner have really turned things around. We've passed all our skills checkoffs since then. WE have more confidence and our teacher is not a "meanie monster" to us anymore. Actually he's oen of the best teachers I've ever had, I'm partial to my micro teacher just bc that class was so interesting, but hey this is only the 5th week and I'm so glad things are going good for us now

    My partner and I

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