Why many new grads don't find jobs.... - page 4

While eating breakfast at a local diner in my scrubs, my waitress was excited to share the news that she, "finished my CNA clinicals yesterday!!" "Great! How was it?" I asked. She starts nursing school soon. "Depressing,"... Read More

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    Quote from paigekc
    I have been doing research to find a CNA program and I just can't seem to find one that looks good. Most of the CNA websites advertising their classes look tacky and possibly "fake". Could you give me some ideas of how to go about finding a program in my area?
    Some nursing homes offer CNA training. Non-profit nursing homes tend to offer much better working conditions than for-profit homes, especially large corporate chains (I'm thinking of a very large Kentucky-based chain). Your local Red Cross may offer training, or at least some idea of how to get training. Your state unemployment office may also be helpful.

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    Quote from paigekc
    I am currently a student completing my prerequisites to get in to a BSN program this time next year. I also think experience plays a big advantage in pretty much any career field. I have been doing research to find a CNA program and I just can't seem to find one that looks good. Most of the CNA websites advertising their classes look tacky and possibly "fake". Could you give me some ideas of how to go about finding a program in my area? I'm also new on AllNurses, and I can't figure out how to post my own thread on here, do you mind telling me how to go about doing that?Thanks for your post!
    Welcome to Allnurses! To create a post, go to the forum you want to post in (like "General Nursing Student") and click on the blue bar on the right side that says "Start A Topic Now". Click on "New Topic" to create the post...the page that loads should walk you through the process.

    I haven't taken any CNA courses so I can't help you with that question, but in my area (southern CA) they have Regional Occupational Programs offered through the county that have CNA courses. I have seen ROP students doing CNA clinicals in hospitals so they seem pretty legit.
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    We have three years of nursing classes so I think our clinicals are a little more spread out than some other programs. This past semester we had our Foundations in Nursing II clinical on a med-surg floor. For Foundations we also had a campus lab one day a week for skills and a day in the classroom for lecture so this one class actually took up three days of the week but we only got one day for actual patient care. That's why I think my job as a CNA will help to prepare me more for the clinical aspect of nursing. My other nursing classes this semester were Health Assessment which had a campus lab and Pharmacology II which has no clinical lab. There were 8 of us in my clinical group (our class was divided into 6 clinical groups).
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    Quote from chels14
    We have three years of nursing classes so I think our clinicals are a little more spread out than some other programs. This past semester we had our Foundations in Nursing II clinical on a med-surg floor. For Foundations we also had a campus lab one day a week for skills and a day in the classroom for lecture so this one class actually took up three days of the week but we only got one day for actual patient care. That's why I think my job as a CNA will help to prepare me more for the clinical aspect of nursing. My other nursing classes this semester were Health Assessment which had a campus lab and Pharmacology II which has no clinical lab. There were 8 of us in my clinical group (our class was divided into 6 clinical groups).
    okay, I wasn't trying to be critical, I promise....in my program we spend a minimum of 16h per week/two days per week in clinical....near the end of our program we are assigned 2-12h shifts back to back for the last 10 weeks....maybe I am just full of envy lol....
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    Quote from Wild Irish SN
    I agree completely....I am about to graduate my program with very high reviews of my clinical performance, as well as the class Valedictorian....and I managed to di this without one minute as a CNA or in any other medical capacity....I was by far in the minority in my class, with most being former or current CNA's....I learned how vital of a role the CNA is in a facility, and have a tremendous amount of respect for them....that is very hard work, work that I had to learn while I learned the art of nursing....that is where my problem is, at least with the group of classmates that are CNA's....the problem is that they think and act as if they are still a CNA, not nursing students....they would rather chase a brief change or get a patient some water rather than practice their assessment skills, patient education and med knowledge....that isn't a criticism, it is a fact....hard habits are hard to break and while their intention and heart are totally in the right places, they have forgotten that they are nursing students first and foremost....having no habits to break, or a marriage to the CNA job itself has, in my opinion helped me a great deal....
    I was given the same advice by my mentor and DON. I asked about taking the CNA course during the summer before nursing school started and she told me NO! For many of the same reasons you mentioned. Also, she told me to spend the summer with my family because the next two years would be tough to negotiate with a family and a 70 mile drive.

    We learn CNA skills - patient care skills - the first semester. So I'm not paying $1000 for a CNA course. And I am a huge fan of and advocate for the CNA's and HHA's I work with. Being a team player comes from your own value system and not necessarily being a CNA first.

    I have no problem if people want to be a CNA first and won't discount that it helps some folks. But you do not have to do it to be a good nurse.

    I think the woman in the OP's first post makes a good point - she realizes what she wants to do and is going to do it. Many of the folks I graduated with went on to go almost straight into NICU or ER or surgery centers without being a CNA first.

    In fact, surgery centers are great for family life - no holidays or weekend and usually more of a 9-5 schedule.
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    Quote from Wild Irish SN
    okay, I wasn't trying to be critical, I promise....in my program we spend a minimum of 16h per week/two days per week in clinical....near the end of our program we are assigned 2-12h shifts back to back for the last 10 weeks....maybe I am just full of envy lol....
    Haha no problem! That does sound rough! It's a pretty tough program though- we've already lost over twenty students, but I think the clinicals are a lot more spread out because it's longer. Most BSN programs around here only have two years of clinical nursing classes. I believe we will have to do a preceptorship our last semester similar to the twelve hour shifts you mentioned, which I'm excited about!
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    [QUOTE=Spidey's mom;6512206]
    I have no problem if people want to be a CNA first and won't discount that it helps some folks. But you do not have to do it to be a good nurse.QUOTE]

    once again, I agree...Thank you....maybe we have the same mentor
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    Quote from chels14
    Haha no problem! That does sound rough! It's a pretty tough program though- we've already lost over twenty students, but I think the clinicals are a lot more spread out because it's longer. Most BSN programs around here only have two years of clinical nursing classes. I believe we will have to do a preceptorship our last semester similar to the twelve hour shifts you mentioned, which I'm excited about!
    well be excited!....I like to bi*ch and moan about the clinical schedule, but in reality I love it....you just never know what you are going to get or see when the doors swing open....and that is what attracted me to nursing in the first place....best of luck to you!!
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    Quote from Spidey's mom
    I have no problem if people want to be a CNA first and won't discount that it helps some folks. But you do not have to do it to be a good nurse.QUOTE]

    once again, I agree...Thank you....maybe we have the same mentor
    She's in Connecticut . . . moved all the way across the country. I miss her.
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    Quote from Wild Irish SN

    She's in Connecticut . . . moved all the way across the country. I miss her.
    I am lucky then, I will see mine on Wednesday/Thursday for classroom instruction....she really has been my mentor and inspiration....I am proud to have her do the honor at our Pinning Ceremony....mentors are hard to come by, so we should consider ourselves blessed....
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