Why do they give so much ridiculous, insignificant homework????? - page 3

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I'm in my 3rd semester of a 4 semester ADN program. I feel like we have MORE hw this semester than ever before. Mind you, the answers to the homework are in the back of the workbook, so this just seems like time consuming busy... Read More


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    I'm also a second career soon to be nurse. I was a HS chem teacher, but didn't really like it!
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    Quote from adnrnstudent
    Most people I know hesitant to do ADN to BSN program cite bullcrap writing as the reason they don't want to do it.

    Most people hate writing papers and the setup of ADN to BSN programs is another thing wrong with nursing today.
    *** EXACTLY! I think I actually got dumber going through the BSN program. The level of discourse was a joke and the assingments where silly and easy. They did use up a lot of time though. In no way relivent to my career.
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    Quote from PMFB-RN

    *** The real irony will come when you get your first job and your preceptor is suprised you didn't learn to draw bood or insert IVs or NGs and don't know the appropiate IV size to insert for an amioderone drip vs a fluid bolus. Nobody at your nursing job is going to ever ask you to draw a comcept map or write a care plan.
    IMO nursing students are not getting, or demanding enough from their nursing schools.
    imo, the EMPLOYERS aren't demanding enough of the nursing schools. If the students complain or petition or otherwise ask for change, RN schools just tell them to stop whining, take personal responsibility for their own success or failure, and sit down and shut up. Student and parent complaints are dismissed or shouted down with "If you don't like it, go someplace else." What it will take to change things is the employers come storming in and demand that the schools turn out (forgive me for calling y'all this) "a product that we can use." I know, people are not products, and I don't feel that nurses are things or products. But the schools are in the business of turning out potential employees, and sooner or later this nonsense of making the employer finish the training that the students really should have gotten in school is going to have to stop. If one year of experience is what you need to be a useful nurse, it seems to me that one year of experience really ought to be in the RN curriculum, and maybe a little less making of flash cards and drawing of 5-color care maps.
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    As in all educational settings, nowadays it's all about teaching to the standardized test.
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    Quote from adnrnstudent
    Most people I know hesitant to do ADN to BSN program cite bullcrap writing as the reason they don't want to do it.

    Most people hate writing papers and the setup of ADN to BSN programs is another thing wrong with nursing today.
    But they want to go to school online and not have to go to actual classrooms and engage in activities with people in a face-to-face format. Many are not prepared to arrange their own preceptorships in their local area. etc. Those limitations reduce the types of projects that can be assigned in the typical RN-BSN program. If people want other types of learning activities ... they're going to have to be willing to engage in other types of programs ... maybe go to campus ocassionally ... arrange prectorship projects to do ... pay higher tuition for more individualized instruction ... etc.

    While I don't disagree ... there are no easy answers ... and none that don't require that both educators AND students change their expectations and become more flexible.
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    I'm in an ADN program- it's the 300 level nursing class. The main focus is peds and OB with a sprinkling of Med-Surg. I've always been told med surg makes or breaks nursing students however most of my class loved last semester (all med surg) and did very well including myself. This semester sucks- tons more paperwork, idiotic concept maps, reflection papers and basically just busy work. I actually don't mind writing linear care plans however OB had been a challenge, I feel like most of the nursing diagnoses are hard to apply. It feels like OB nurses follow a more medical model vs the nursing model and that's cool and I'm pretty good with both but trying to write a nursing care plan that is halfway decent blows. The tests this semester have been a lot more brutal as well- ive scraped by with a B however i know a lot of people that consistently get A's that have failed these tests. The questions are very poorly written questions, a lot of them you read 5 times and still have no clue what it's asking. So I totally sympathize with useless paperwork and the all around increasing brutality.
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    I've been asking the same question... ever since I was in 1st grade.
    No lie. I have back pain to this day because of the heavy backpacks full of textbooks and useless homework I had to drag with me everywhere.
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    I agree with you by and large, but seems very difficult to "demand" enough from a nursing school. Nursing instructors don't like it when you question their methodologies. It's sad though, really. I wish there was more that could be done about this problem.
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    Quote from Streamline2010
    imo, the EMPLOYERS aren't demanding enough of the nursing schools. If the students complain or petition or otherwise ask for change, RN schools just tell them to stop whining, take personal responsibility for their own success or failure, and sit down and shut up. Student and parent complaints are dismissed or shouted down with "If you don't like it, go someplace else." What it will take to change things is the employers come storming in and demand that the schools turn out (forgive me for calling y'all this) "a product that we can use." I know, people are not products, and I don't feel that nurses are things or products. But the schools are in the business of turning out potential employees, and sooner or later this nonsense of making the employer finish the training that the students really should have gotten in school is going to have to stop. If one year of experience is what you need to be a useful nurse, it seems to me that one year of experience really ought to be in the RN curriculum, and maybe a little less making of flash cards and drawing of 5-color care maps.
    I couldn't agree more! This is spot on!
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    Quote from CloudySue
    As in all educational settings, nowadays it's all about teaching to the standardized test.
    EXACTLY! The are just trying to cram into our heads what we need to pass NCLEX, so maybe NCLEX should be updated to include questions as to different IV gauges for different purposes and such! Then maybe we would be learning useful information. I do have to say that I got through my Med-Surg finals and start Mental Health next week and I AM TERRIFIED!


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