why do some nurses forget that they were once students? - page 5
Hi guys! Okay here's the situation. I'm in my clinical rotation on a med/surg floor, why is it that the nurses there threat us students (who are helping them out with their pt loads)like we are in... Read More
Mar 10, '03As one who just jumped from student to RN, I gotta say that being on this end of things is HARD!! Sometimes the students are great, and want to learn and are active and all you gotta do is bat clean up (and make sure everything got done and be a resource) but other times you have to rearrange your schedule to work around the student and accomodate them. (First and last time that will happen) Last day there were students on the floor, I was working primary (4 pts). Students had 2 of the pts. They were giving PO meds, each had 2 pts. They DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO DO AM CARE--THEY WERE GIVING MEDS.. *****!?! You are here for 5 hours!! Whatever...did it myself. Ultimately it's my azz on the line if things aren't done or are done incorrectly. Impossible to recognize this when you haven't stood there. My respect for all the nurses who are awesome with students has doubled!! I'm totally not sour on students, but enough like that could make anyone, don't you think??
I'll take a beer please, whatever's on tap. I'm a simple girl
Mar 10, '03Originally posted by HerEyes73
OBNURSEHEATHER ~ I hope you didn't steal those little cups off of someone's med cart?
Mar 10, '03AND THEY WONDER WHY THEY SAY, "NURSES EAT THEIR YOUNG" THIS THREAD IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE. CAN'T EVEN HAVE AN OPINION WITHOUT SOMEONE GETTING AN ATTITUDE. My advice get throughand make sure you don't mistreat up and coming students. I had some real crones when I was learning but I have tough skin and never til this day I have treated new nurses like dirt. I find them refreshing and often finding myself reflect on why I became a nurse. I would start a student forum just for many new nurses since obviously you can't get love here just remember not all of us think bad about students okay :-)
Mar 10, '03Originally posted by ayemmeff
Is there a conspiracy to keep us all drunk????? <hic..>
Mar 10, '03Originally posted by caroladybelle
I personally am still waiting for my Godiva chocolate martini to waltz its way over from latest RN/LPN thread.
The waiter's tip will reflect this poor service.
Mar 10, '03originally posted by kelligrl
....sometimes the students are great, and want to learn and are active and all you gotta do is bat clean up (and make sure everything got done and be a resource) but other times you have to rearrange your schedule to work around the student and accomodate them. .....ultimately it's my azz on the line if things aren't done or are done incorrectly. impossible to recognize this when you haven't stood there. ....
Mar 10, '03I think another reason why you are getting so many replies is that this post has been mislaid. It is in "general nursing discussion" rather than the forum alotted to it for students. Just a thought...
Usually SJOE comes in to remind us to post in the students area. Where are ya Joe????
Mar 10, '03I know you weren't saying "all nurses hate students". In the real world you are going to have to live with all us. Grumpy ones, drunks ones, and helpful ones.
Also remember, despite the fact that you guys are helping, the licensed nurses are still responsible for their assessments and meds, and plan of care. Having to stop, slow down and answer questions, look for missing charts and paperwork, and work with a student disrupts their "routine" and isn't as easy as you presume it to be. If they are wearing their stress on their sleeves a bit, put yourself in their shoes.
And as was said. Some people are mean, and you just ignore them. Some people are lazy and when students are around they have to act professional and work. There are some people who feel threatened by students, students point out what they don't know, what they are doing wrong. Students I found can also be very judgemental, running around whispers "Can you believe that nurse did...such and such....", and this can sour relationships and cause judgement in return.
Take look at yourself and you can look at others differently....isn't that a song?
We all were students once. I try to remember that and treat students respectfully., and I mean no disrespect to you. Good luck!
Mar 10, '03Exactly right VSummer. I hadn't thought of that either.
Let me say ONE thing......where I worked we had Univ. of South Carolina students (BSN) and Midlands Tech. students (ADN, LPN) and their instructors ALWAYS had them come the day before, research their patients' charts, and when they arrived at the floor the INSTRUCTOR was the supervisor. We were still assigned our students but the INSTRUCTOR made sure all the work was done and up to standard.
I never realized it could be any other way.
And with that, let's go to the student forum and take the BAR to off topic.
Mar 10, '03gelessa, welcome to the board.
although i have heard of issuses that you mentioned in your original post, i have not encountered this personally.
i too would suggest speaking with your instructor if these attitudes are restricting your learning abilities or compromising your/their patients care or at least learn to do what you can, learn all you can, and let the attitudes of some, go.
i wish you all the best in your endeavors.
Mar 10, '03I am a student right now.. And I have encountered a nurse who was not very nice to students... But as someone already posted.... YES, we are there to lighten the load for them and help, but they do still have several patients of their own to care for... and then they have us coming to ask questions and for their help and I could see where it gets kinda stressful... But does that give that person a right to jump down a student.. Of course not.. Just realize you are gonna run into grumpy people along the way, and you just need to let it roll of your back..... My 2nd semester instructor told us if a nurse was mean to us, at the end of clinical go up to them and just say "Thank you for inspiring me" And as my instructor said that nurse will more than likely know that you meant.. Thank you for inspiring to not be a sourpuss like you heeh
Mar 10, '03Originally posted by nurs2b
YES, we are there to lighten the load for them and help, but they do still have several patients of their own to care for... and then they have us coming to ask questions and for their help and I could see where it gets kinda stressful...
Mar 10, '03My comments only go to the poster as advice on the bulletin board...when you come into a new group of people especially one this large, and post in a general area it's much like walking into a large sports arena full of nurses and shouting "Why are all nurses mean?!!!" what kind of response do you think you'll get. Be cautious, considerate and come with open arms that say "I'm here to learn" and you'll be amazed the difference in responses you'll get. Lose the attitude, seriously, coming from another student and very involved member. I'm sure you have lots to contribute.
A more appropriate way to ask is to say, I'm having this problem yada yada, how can I remedy the situation? And I bet your responses would be much different...I also bet you'd get a ton of encouragement. It's often not what we say, but HOW we say it.
I LOVE the search feature, you'll learn a plethra on just about any subject too, so it is good that you were told to try it, it's an important tool.
Whew. where'd that come from, eh? Can I have a drink now???Last edit by Lausana on Mar 10, '03