Why Do Nursing Instructors Rely So Heavily On PowerPoints To Teach? - page 5

I have completed 3 semesters of Nursing School and so far, every lecture instructor has used PowerPoints in the classroom to teach. This method has been used probably 99% of the time. The PowerPoints... Read More

  1. Visit  VioletKaliLPN} profile page
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    ^^ i just want to echo what was posted above, ppt's make a great visual aide for people who need to see it and hear it at the same time. some people actually prefer hearing it, while others prefer to see it, so ppt's are a great tool to assist students who need one/both types of learning aides.

    i enjoy both the auditory and visual aspect of lecturing with ppt's.
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  3. Visit  Streamline2010} profile page
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    Quote from CrazierThanYou
    ... So basically, we spend 90% of the day doing nothing. I can get this nothing better accomplished at home, either reading or looking at the almighty PowerPoints. We have a super strict attendance policy but I just don't see the point.

    Basically, our instructors rely on our reading and PowerPoints THEY didn't even make so there really isn't a heck of lot that they have to actually DO.
    If it's that bad, don't sit there and struggle. Report it to the college. Put it on ratemyprofessors.com (or whatever that site is.) Send your parents and everyone else's parents in there to that school to complain loudly about paying for education that the students aren't getting.

    My A&P class, that I dropped because I thought I was just not getting it, had that prof fired. The whole class was lagging behind, behind, not just me, but I was only a part-time student and I wasn't in the loop to know that the whole class was struggling. So, that class went to the dean, and got that prof fired after mid-terms. The college brought in their most experienced instructor to finished out the semester. Plus gave that entire class free special tutoring. So, had I known that all that about to happen, I'd have stuck it out.
  4. Visit  Streamline2010} profile page
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    Powerpoints are used all the time in the business world, and I do mean ALL the time, and are usually very effective screen shows. Maybe it depends on who designs them. As for schools using them, I don't see how the school could standardize the course materials in many different sections (of same course), and with various instructors, many of whom are only part-time now (saves the schools $$$), without the Powerpoint (and textbook and departmental exams package) as the unifying factors.
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  5. Visit  ProfRN4} profile page
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    Quote from CrazierThanYou
    Then we get chewed out with the instructor saying "Did ANYONE do their reading assignment and look at the PowerPoint? Why should I waste my time getting up here in front of the class if no one else is going to do their part?"

    Um, because that is your JOB. That's why.
    So all you have to do is show up? No preparation, and expect your professors to spoon feed it all to you?

    Ummm.... not cool
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  6. Visit  CrazierThanYou} profile page
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    Quote from nurse educate
    So all you have to do is show up? No preparation, and expect your professors to spoon feed it all to you?

    Ummm.... not cool
    Uh, no. I do my reading and all that but my point is, they get all ticked if we haven't already looked at the PowerPoint that they're getting ready to show us all over AGAIN and read to us word for word. And really, she doesn't do any "lecturing" so I'm not sure what she's worried about.
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    Quote from CrazierThanYou
    Uh, no. I do my reading and all that but my point is, they get all ticked if we haven't already looked at the PowerPoint that they're getting ready to show us all over AGAIN and read to us word for word. And really, she doesn't do any "lecturing" so I'm not sure what she's worried about.
    Gotcha. yeah, that doesn't make sense, reading the PP before to only have it reread to you in class.
  8. Visit  SarahMaria} profile page
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    Quote from AOx1
    Yet every semester, I get a few complaints. One was "Why can't we just use PowerPoint? I shouldn't have to write so much in class!" and another wrote "I just want the teacher to tell me what's on the test. I shouldn't have to read on my own time."

    Seriously?? What is the point of going to school and getting an education if you don't want to think or do anything? Just having an instructor provide the relevant material so students can pass an exam is NOT learning, it's regurgitating. What do these students think they will have to do when they are on their own as RNs and there is nobody there to give them the answer or tell them what to do? At some point real soon, they need to start taking responsibility for themselves. I find it shocking and lazy that students just want to be told what is on an exam. Wake up call!!!! When you are in college/university, you have to do extensive reading outside of class (i.e. on your own time). Why anyone would think otherwise and complain about it, is somewhat delusional.

    In my opinion, the kinds of activities you are doing in class sound great. Keep up the good work!!
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    Quote from Streamline2010
    LOL, I had to go look up "Millennial Learners" because I didn't know what that was. "may not sufficiently motivate students or inspire enthusiasm or intellectual curiosity": Oh, cry me a river. If you are not already arriving at class inspired and intellectually curious, then please drop out and leave a seat for someone who is!

    "ineffective in the teaching/learning process": Well, could it be instead that these students are ineffective learners? Seriously. We're not at the movies. It's not a TV show.

    "use of clickers": If anyone tries to clicker-train me, I assure you that an ambulance and the police will have to be called.

    I'll take the opposite tack, and say that the students had better stop listening passively. Listening passively should not be happening. They should also stop expecting to be entertained, stop expecting to be spoon-fed, and had better learn how to read a book ahead of the lecture, re-read it as many times as it takes to sink in, and get really good at teaching themselves. If you have read and studied the course material ahead of time, you are not just listening passively while you are in that class. You are listening (and watching that PowerPoint) alertly to try to pick up anything that you missed in your self-teaching, or that you misunderstood when you read that material yourself.

    I don't think it's a prof's job to inspire intellectual curiosity and enthusiasm at the post-secondary level. When students finish HS and go on to vocational training and/or college, they should be bringing their own enthusiasm and intellectual curiosity. Otherwise, why pay all that money and spend all that time in classes?

    They may have been catered to in HS< but there is far too much REAL WORK to be accomplished in college or vocational training, and students should not expect to be entertained. It's nice if you are, but don't expect a prof to do that.

    One other thing that I wonder about is how do these students who are bored with Powerpoints cope with distance learning or online learning? Distance learning is even more gruntwork than taking the class in the classroom, because you have to essentially do it all yourself, usually without much contact with the prof and the "classmates."

    As an older student with more than one degree, who is transitioning to nursing, here's my advice:

    Get darned used to the idea that school = work, not entertainment. Get really good at teaching yourself, and taking online classes, and at reading and studying ahead of the classroom lectures. Stop expecting postsecondary educators to cater to you like the high school did, because it is not going to happen. If you want your money's worth out of college or vocational school, the rule of thumb is YOU do 3-4 hours of work outside the classroom for every credit hour of classroom, and A&P and some of the nursing courses will be even more than that. And you go to the lecture prepared. If you already understand the material that the instructor is talking about, it's more interesting to listen to him or her talk.


    I am well aware of the fact that school is hard work. I have a bachelors and a doctorate and am adding nursing into the mix. After 11-12 years of college, I know how to study and prepare for class. Never would I expect to be entertained by an instructor or have one cater to me. I have spent many years teaching myself. Even when I am prepared for lecture, having an instructor read at me is not inspiring, it's a waste of time.
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    Quote from Streamline2010
    LOL, I had to go look up "Millennial Learners" because I didn't know what that was. "may not sufficiently motivate students or inspire enthusiasm or intellectual curiosity": Oh, cry me a river. If you are not already arriving at class inspired and intellectually curious, then please drop out and leave a seat for someone who is!

    "ineffective in the teaching/learning process": Well, could it be instead that these students are ineffective learners? Seriously. We're not at the movies. It's not a TV show.

    "use of clickers": If anyone tries to clicker-train me, I assure you that an ambulance and the police will have to be called.

    I'll take the opposite tack, and say that the students had better stop listening passively. Listening passively should not be happening. They should also stop expecting to be entertained, stop expecting to be spoon-fed, and had better learn how to read a book ahead of the lecture, re-read it as many times as it takes to sink in, and get really good at teaching themselves. If you have read and studied the course material ahead of time, you are not just listening passively while you are in that class. You are listening (and watching that PowerPoint) alertly to try to pick up anything that you missed in your self-teaching, or that you misunderstood when you read that material yourself.

    I don't think it's a prof's job to inspire intellectual curiosity and enthusiasm at the post-secondary level. When students finish HS and go on to vocational training and/or college, they should be bringing their own enthusiasm and intellectual curiosity. Otherwise, why pay all that money and spend all that time in classes?

    They may have been catered to in HS< but there is far too much REAL WORK to be accomplished in college or vocational training, and students should not expect to be entertained. It's nice if you are, but don't expect a prof to do that.

    One other thing that I wonder about is how do these students who are bored with Powerpoints cope with distance learning or online learning? Distance learning is even more gruntwork than taking the class in the classroom, because you have to essentially do it all yourself, usually without much contact with the prof and the "classmates."

    As an older student with more than one degree, who is transitioning to nursing, here's my advice:

    Get darned used to the idea that school = work, not entertainment. Get really good at teaching yourself, and taking online classes, and at reading and studying ahead of the classroom lectures. Stop expecting postsecondary educators to cater to you like the high school did, because it is not going to happen. If you want your money's worth out of college or vocational school, the rule of thumb is YOU do 3-4 hours of work outside the classroom for every credit hour of classroom, and A&P and some of the nursing courses will be even more than that. And you go to the lecture prepared. If you already understand the material that the instructor is talking about, it's more interesting to listen to him or her talk.

    Hallelujah and AMEN!! Thank you for your post!!
  11. Visit  Streamline2010} profile page
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    I really am NOT being catty. RN is degree #3 for me. In my first career, my job description changed 4-5 times while I was still in the same job. And the name of my employer changed 4 times, too. And then I totally lost that career due to outsourcing. It's a mean old world out there, and the more you can dig out of the book , the 'Net, and wherever, for yourself, and by yourself, the better off you will be.

    Learn how to learn, so that you survive.
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    Quote from SarahMaria
    I am well aware of the fact that school is hard work. I have a bachelors and a doctorate and am adding nursing into the mix. After 11-12 years of college, I know how to study and prepare for class. Never would I expect to be entertained by an instructor or have one cater to me. I have spent many years teaching myself. Even when I am prepared for lecture, having an instructor read at me is not inspiring, it's a waste of time.
    Of course being read to is a poor substitute for a Prof giving a lecture and I don't think anyone in this thread is saying that is what should happen. I think Streamline is more speaking about all those other ways of presenting information in a didactic course (skits, videos, games, etc). Truthfully, I couldn't agree with her/him more. I don't need a Professor to "motivate me to learn" or "inspire intellectual curiosity" with games and skits. Being prepared and motivated to learn is my responsibility, I just need them to teach.
    Last edit by CuriousMe on Dec 19, '10
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    Quote from HyperSaurus, SN
    You say this, but have you ever experienced a lecture like this done well? My prof in peds never used power points except to provide diagrams. We did case studies. She did guide and moderate--First, she'd provide necessary info on the condition being studied (S/sx, labs/diagnostics, treatments, prevention if possible), then we'd get to the questions, where participation was encouraged. However, if we answered wrong or were going down the wrong track, she would explain why that was incorrect. She never let the discussions meander too far off track, and thus we got a lot of workable information each period, without being exactly spoon fed.
    As there's no objective measure on "well done." What you consider to be a "well done" presentation, may still leave me cold (and finding the information I need in other places).

    We do plenty of case studies. But the investigatory process that you describe, is something we do at home...which gives me time to actually research the information I need to complete the case (as in we're not just given all the information about that condition just before we do the case, we need to find it in our notes, readings, and via other reference sources available to us). I don't see a benefit in having to wait for the rest of the class to find that information as well. I don't need to have my hand held as I go through cases. I have to back up every decision, and intervention with a rationale (cited). If I'm completely on the wrong track, then I expect to get it wrong, receive a poor grade and feedback from my Prof on why it's wrong. Much more instructive for me.
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    Quote from Streamline2010
    If anyone tries to clicker-train me, I assure you that an ambulance and the police will have to be called.
    Kudos x 1,000,000,000. That would **** me off royally.
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