Re: What's your answer?? Originally Posted by thekingandhislady
Is it possible for ABG's to read: pH 7.36, CO2 50, HCO3 35. And if so how do you work it? Normal pH (so compensated) CO2 elevated (acidic) HCO3 elevated (alkaline). So you have a compensated imbalance but from where resp. or metab.--acidosis or alkalosis????
If you know the answer how would you do the opposite? If pH is normal but CO2 of say... 23 (alkaline) and HCO3....19 (acidic)..whats your answer?
My guess is that A) you wouldnt be able to tell where the imbalance came from b) this type of ABG is WRONG! or C) you would have to determine by seeing how far CO2 or HCO3 is from their normal values and the one farthest is the culpret.
K, I confussed myself. HELP

On the 1st one I would say Compensated Respiratory Acidosis because the pH is normal but closer towards the acid (7.4 as midpoint) with the CO2 (acid) high. The elevated HCO3 (alkaline) is in response to the high CO2, in order to bring up the pH. CO2 indicates respiratory, HCO3 indicates metabolic causes. It is also possible to have a mixed disturbance, with a definitive cause.
On the second one; what would you say the pH is? You initially look at that to see where the shift is from midline on 7.4-that will tell you if it is had an acidotic or alkalotic origin. Let's say it stayed 7.36, so it's origin remains acidotic; and, the acidotic number would be the metobolic HCO3 (19)---Compensated Metabolic Acidosis would be the answer. The breathing of the patient just compensated for the metabolic acidosis to bring the pH to normal (that's where the alkaline CO2 came from).
Now, if you get a pH of 7.4 with, let's say, the both the CO2 & HCO3 high, CO2 indicating acidosis and HCO3 indicating alkalosis---you really can't tell it's origin. The full clinical picture of the patient would be needed because the metabolic compensatory mechanism would take days to develop, where the respiratory component is almost immediately seen. This time delay for a metabolic compensatory response would be the only thing that could clue you in to a respiratory origin. I remember some instructors trying to trick students with this one.
Hope this helps and I haven't confused you.
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