Vent: Irritating classmates - page 4

I've had to put up with the same obnoxious people for 2 quarters now. I swear, they're following me! :chuckle In my A&P class there are 3 gals who get on absolutely everyone's nerves. They're... Read More

  1. by   Jrnalist2RNinOR
    Oh - I completely understand the annoying classmate theory...I simply cannot believe how often cell phones ring in class...it is so bothersome

    In my math class there are two ditzes that sit in the back of the class and were using their cell phone during class to IM someone - and passing notes - I couldnt believe it :angryfire

    Then in my sociology class the guys on the BB team thought it would be cool to talk about the game (all quarter long) finally the prof had a really bad day and almost kicked one of them out of class one day when they were doing it
  2. by   emily_rn_03
    [QUOTE=hopefully]I did not like the first post because the orginal first message poster wanted everyone to be a "plain jane" in class!

    Anyway, look at this research done by crediable sources about sucess in the work place and being beautiful:

    http://www.jyi.org/volumes/volume6/i...ures/feng.html

    [QUOTE]

    I can go both ways regarding the original post to this thread. It is frustrating when students don't take their classes seriously and use it more as a fashion show. I think you should be more presentable in class versus wearing pajamas to class also! However, everyone is entitled to their own opinion no matter what any study has argued! In reference to the study that you posted, I did read it because it does intrigue me! I found a paragraph that I noticed was left out of your post but I think this is truly important considering the profession we are in.

    "In one study, 70% of college students deemed an instructor physically attractive when he acted in a friendly manner, while only 30% found him attractive when he was cold and distant. Indeed, when surveyed for attributes in selecting a mate, both males and females felt kindness and an exciting personality were more important in a mate than good looks. Thus, to a certain degree, beauty truly is in the eye of the beholder."
  3. by   hobbes
    Quote from hopefully
    i did not like the first post because the orginal first message poster wanted everyone to be a "plain jane" in class!

    anyway, look at this research done by crediable sources about sucess in the work place and being beautiful:

    http://www.jyi.org/volumes/volume6/i...ures/feng.html

    [font=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif][color=#3366cc]the halo effect

    research shows attractive people also have more occupational success and more dating experience than their unattractive counterparts.

    [font=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif]in society, attractive people tend to be more intelligent, better adjusted, and more popular. this is described as the halo effect - due to the perfection associated with angels. research shows attractive people also have more occupational success and more dating experience than their unattractive counterparts. one theory behind this halo effect is that it is accurate -- attractive people are indeed more successful.

    [font=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif].
    [font=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif]an alternative explanation for attractive people achieving more in life is that we automatically categorize others before having an opportunity to evaluate their personalities, based on cultural stereotypes which say attractive people must be intrinsically good, and ugly people must be inherently bad. but elliot aronson, a social psychologist at stanford university, believes self-fulfilling prophecies - in which a person't confident self-perception, further perpetuated by healthy feedback from others - may play a role in success as well. aronson suggests, based on the self-fulfilling prophecy that people who feel they are attractive - though not necessarily rated as such - are just as successful as their counterparts who are judged to be good-looking.

    [font=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif]whatever the reason, the notion that attractiveness correlates with success still rings true. yet beauty is not always advantageous, for beautiful people, particularly attractive women, tend to be perceived as more materialistic, snobbish, and vain.

    [font=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif]for better or worse, the bottom line is that research shows beauty matters; it pervades society and affects how we choose loved ones. thus, striving to appear attractive may not be such a vain endeavor after all. this isn't to say plastic surgery is necessarily the answer. instead, lead a healthy lifestyle that will in turn make you a happier person[font=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif].
    don't believe everything you read - a healthy dose of skeptism can be a good thing. i, for one, am not going to take for gospel truth the research conclusions of the journal of young investigators, from which the conclusions were drawn. not to belitte the work of undergraduate research, most of which is probably worthwhile, but i feel more comfortable with the conclusions and research of those that have been trained accordingly (i.e. ph.d) and are published in a reputable journal. although, having said that, i do believe as i've state previously, that attractive people do have advantages in that they are able to "get over" much better and don't always have to prove themselves competent like others because some in our society would rather have a pretty face to look at. also, intelligence is not something that is relative. you either are or are not based on whatever measurement you choose. i've yet to see an intelligence test based on how you look or how others perceive your looks.
  4. by   Sheri257
    We have to take two psych classes as pre-reqs for the our nursing program. The textbooks did mention studies which found attractive people do have advantages. So I believe there's other research which confirms this.

    However, I don't see how attractiveness will help someone through nursing school. These girls might have an advantage with this one teacher, but the bottom line is: They either know the stuff or they don't. If they don't know it, they won't make it in the long run.
  5. by   AmyLiz
    Wow...didn't realize this thread would get this much interest. I was just venting.

    Anyway...

    It has been theorized that people perceived to be attractive are perceived as being smarter, etc. I've got a psychology degree & know all about that. There have been countless studies on this. But it's not exactly true 100% of the time. Perception is the key...and it's not always just on looks.

    But that's neither here nor there. The fact that these girls are brightly polished for class isn't the main reason they're annoying to me & everyone else. Quite honestly, I'd say the majority of the folks in the class are attractive & well-groomed. Some are more attractive than these gals in question. There aren't but one or two "plain janes" as someone called them. And those gals are really nice & smart. One has the highest grade in class (well above 100% since she does the bonus questions on the tests too).

    We had a lab exam last night. I'm over it all really...when the gals were asking all these questions to our instructor, I just smirked & shook my head to myself. Especially when I overheard him say to one of them, "hey, I'm not going to tell you what the answer is, you have to figure that out yourself!"

    Only one more week & it's over.
  6. by   SirJohnny
    AmyLiz:

    - Who the hell cares!!! Now get back to work hitting the books.

    - Seriously, if you are working full-time and taking classes, then you really
    should be too busy to worry about these other students.

    - I'm a guy, and if you girls want to dress up for class - fine with me. But
    I am too busy (full-time job and part-time job and a nightmare micro
    class) to even think about flirting with you.

    - Unless these kids/girls/whatever are hurting your grade - then just
    move on. That's the reality of the situation.

    John Coxey
  7. by   phyrenrain
    EEEEAAASSSSSY there Hopefully....She was only giving descriptions of their appearance to reinforce the fact that it seems the instructor is flattered and indulges their demands for special attention. Her concern with these girls' behavior is the fact that it's impeding on the learning time for the rest of the class. I can totally relate, I've seen people like this when I was in school and can empathize with her frustration. Me thinks your y chromosome is speaking for itself....Jealous? I don't think so.
  8. by   phyrenrain
    RIGHT ON LIZZ!!!






    Quote from lizz
    We have to take two psych classes as pre-reqs for the our nursing program. The textbooks did mention studies which found attractive people do have advantages. So I believe there's other research which confirms this.

    However, I don't see how attractiveness will help someone through nursing school. These girls might have an advantage with this one teacher, but the bottom line is: They either know the stuff or they don't. If they don't know it, they won't make it in the long run.
  9. by   AmyLiz
    The funny thing is that it's not just a girl thing...the guys in the class have had it with them to. How they dress is not the issue...it's the way they act that impedes the class to flow properly.

    Anyway...I was just venting anyway originally. At this point in time, I really could care less. The class is about over (only a week left) and I won't have to witness their crap anymore (at least I hope not). I doubt it will be tolerated in the nursing program, so that helps. And honestly, if it wasn't for the fact that everyone else in the class has been complaining about them, I probably wouldn't get near as irritated about it. Guess it's one of those group dynamic things. Usually I let idiots slide off my back & move on. And that's pretty much what I'm doing now. Letting it slide. I was just agitated on Tuesday when I posted this. Nothing more than that. I'll probably end up with a B in the class...it's only the 2nd B I've gotten since going back to school. It won't kill me. I'll still make the deans list...I'm getting an A in my other class that is worth more credit.
  10. by   SirJohnny
    EasyLiz & Phyrenrain:

    - Sorry if I came on a little strong.

    - Thing is, don't let yourself get consumed by your anger/emotions in
    reflecting upon these people.

    - I am seeing alot of this "blamming others for failure" syndrome in the
    Microbiology class I am currently taking. We started with 135 and are
    down to like 40. Class is being taught on the level of a Grad school
    engineering course.

    - Essentially, keep your focus and you'll do fine.

    Gotta run,

    John Coxey
  11. by   Mandylpn
    Quote from AmyLiz
    I've had to put up with the same obnoxious people for 2 quarters now. I swear, they're following me! :chuckle

    In my A&P class there are 3 gals who get on absolutely everyone's nerves. They're always immaculately groomed - which is fine...I'd rather see people "together" than "disheveled", but we're talking not a hair out of place, dressed to the nines, nails perfectly manicured & polished. Most of us in the class (it's an evening class) work all day & come straight from the job...some are in scrubs, most others in jeans & sweatshirts or sweaters. We're tired, old & grouchy! :chuckle Then we see these gals sitting there in class, flirting with the instructor & every one of us would like to have words with them. Yesterday one of them gave the instructor some hard candy "for his breath" after class & they all asked him to come to the bio lab after he was done teaching his lab so that he could "help them".

    They're in my lab class too & demand attention from him constantly. They're always flirting, making suggestive comments, etc. One day in class he was explaining a system & afterward they demanded "private instruction" (their exact words). They hadnt' been paying attention in the first place.

    One of them has really irritated everyone in that she is the LAST PERSON DONE with the lecture exams. On exam day, we take the test, turn it in & leave, usually before the end of the class. She takes the test the entire class time & usually has to take it into our instructor's next class in order to finish it. Now, if she has a learning disability (I don't think she does, usually they have you take exams in the testing center) fine...but this is just nuts.

    They stay after everyone else leaves in lab...chatting away with the instructor.

    It's just sooo.....ANNOYING! :angryfire

    I'd say they're all in their late 20's. They shouldn't be trolling for married instructors or flirting to get better grades. The rest of us work hard for our grades & don't appreciate them trying other methods to improve their gpa. It makes us all sick.

    Unfortunately there's nothing we can really do about it. Obviously the instructor doesn't have a problem with it. He buys right into it. They did the same thing last quarter with that instructor too...the only thing being that he didn't buy into it as much. He gave us an hour to complete our tests...that one gal...she never was finished in time, so we would all have to wait on her so that we could go through the tests (he didn't let us leave after we were done).

    I guess I'm not looking for anything by posting this...just getting it off of my chest. Only a week and a half left. I sure hope none of these gals are in any of my other classes.

    What are they going to do when (if) they are nurses?
  12. by   Mandylpn
    And wait till they have to remove their fake nails, and get up at 4:30 am for clinicals, do you think they will look so great then? :chuckle
  13. by   belladelicious
    I understand how it goes being annoyed. We have a few people who are very loud, and talk too much in class. We all know it's good to discuss and be active in class discussions, but two females in my class take it too far. One of my teachers was like..ok, you've had your turn, let someone talk. So, that was good. But another class, she went on with her own questions for about 15 minutes, which means we had to rush the rest of the lecture. It's just rude to me and ignorant. I can't stand people who just love to listen to their own loud mouths.

    Another thing that bugs me...kissing up. Some teachers fall for it, and it's pretty aggrevating...but I guess that's how the work world is, so maybe it's good practice.

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