Thoughts on Apple's Mac - page 6

Hey all Ive been a PC girl for quite awhile. Im thinking about getting a Mac eventually. The new Macbook to be more specific or what ever new mac laptop comes out when i get the hunkering to buy a... Read More

  1. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from Miss Ludie
    I had great problems with the newest IE. I got freezing, screen jitter and unfocused screens. I removed it after just a few hours. Norton never jumped in though I have 2006 and Protection center. But I do scan every nite and use adaware to get rid of spy/ad/trojan crap.

    See if taking IE off and going back to the prior version works.
    The truth is I don't even use Internet Explorer anymore - I use FireFox.

    steph
  2. by   jnette
    My son bought a MacBook this year and he absolutely LOVES it. He will never go back to PC. And I know if I ever have to get a new puter, it will be a Mac as well. Without a doubt.

    Most ppl I know who have Macs love everything about them.. I've really never heard any complaints at all.. they're hooked on them for life.
  3. by   Sheri257
    Quote from stevielynn
    Everyone does seem to have different experiences.

    I also have Norton and since I upgraded Internet Explorer, I keep getting these pop-ups from Norton that they have detected and deleted a trojan or virus or something. It is happening at least one a day and sometime 3 or 4 times. I've had Norton check the whole computer and everything is ok.

    This is my second pc - the other was Compaq. Same thing - running slowly after a few weeks, freezing, etc.

    I will be going with Apple next time.

    steph
    Well ... Norton is horrible. Probably the worst virus protection on the market, IMHO. I quit using them years ago.

    :typing
  4. by   ginger58
    Quote from lizz
    Read Apple's Windows promo material that I previously posted.

    When Apple talks about being able to use Windows Outlook Express or viewing live internet video feeds through Internet Explorer in their promotional material ... you don't think people are going to get viruses? That they're only going to use Windows legacy software?

    As you state: Clearly, running Windows with an Internet connection opens the user to all the security issues associated with Windows.

    And that's exactly how Apple is promoting Windows on their own website .... running Windows with an internet connection ... because that's what people want to use it for.

    So, I stand by my statement: Here come the viruses.

    :typing
    Lizz, I'm soooo glad that this subject isn't life or death material and I'm sorry that you had problems with your MAC. Maybe they should have lemon laws for computers.
    What keeps me going on this thread is the misinformation you are posting. I showed your post to my MAC consultant who is highly educated in MAC and she will explain the virus situation:

    "the viruses that are out there only affect Windows users in the Windows environment. They CANNOT 'cross over' and infect the Mac side of things. Windows on a Mac runs in an 'enclosed' environment. If your Windows install on the Mac is infected - quit it, toss it in the trash and create a new one. It really is that simple.
    That said, in general now that Apple is actively advertising that they are 'safer and more secure' many hackers will take the challenge and work harder to 'attack the Mac'. For now though OS X is as secure as ever and there are no current working viruses for OS X. The only active issue is the 'macros' that affect products such as MS Word, Excel, etc. these have been around for many years."

    I do agree with you that NAV is awful. I've started using Virus Barrier and I really like it. It's quick, simple and can run in the background.
  5. by   Sheri257
    Quote from ginger58
    Lizz, I'm soooo glad that this subject isn't life or death material and I'm sorry that you had problems with your MAC. Maybe they should have lemon laws for computers.
    What keeps me going on this thread is the misinformation you are posting. I showed your post to my MAC consultant who is highly educated in MAC and she will explain the virus situation:

    "the viruses that are out there only affect Windows users in the Windows environment. They CANNOT 'cross over' and infect the Mac side of things. Windows on a Mac runs in an 'enclosed' environment. If your Windows install on the Mac is infected - quit it, toss it in the trash and create a new one. It really is that simple.
    That said, in general now that Apple is actively advertising that they are 'safer and more secure' many hackers will take the challenge and work harder to 'attack the Mac'. For now though OS X is as secure as ever and there are no current working viruses for OS X. The only active issue is the 'macros' that affect products such as MS Word, Excel, etc. these have been around for many years."

    I do agree with you that NAV is awful. I've started using Virus Barrier and I really like it. It's quick, simple and can run in the background.
    What is with the condescending ... you're so glad this isn't life or death information. Don't accuse me of spreading misinformation when I haven't. If anything, people need to read the posts before they accuse people of such things.

    I never said the Mac OS was going to get infected. What I did say was: with internet use of the Windows OS ... which is what Apple is promoting ... here come the viruses. So, get your facts straight before you or your consultant goes off on some rant about something I didn't say.

    It's even more ridiculous to tell people that if Windows install is infected, quit it and create a new one. Well, that's just great ... and something a Mac user who's not had much experience with viruses would say.

    The problem is: what if you've saved a bunch of files with Windows which, people tend to do when they use Windows. There's a good chance you'll lose those files if you have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall the Windows OS which, btw, some viruses will force you to do.

    With some of these really nasty viruses, you can't reboot the computer at all. Since this is a dual boot situation, you have to consider the possibility that you might have to scrub the entire hard drive and lose every file you've ever saved, including Mac files.

    Hopefully, none of this will happen and there's a Chinese wall between the Mac and Windows OS. But, with hackers writing new viruses all the time ... these are the kinds of problems you could have even without infecting the Mac OS. Why take the risk of having to find out the hard way?

    This is why CNET is now recommending that Mac users install virus protection software, firewalls, etc. with any Mac where they're also using Windows.

    Windows Security on Your Mac

    For many longtime Mac fans, maintaining PC security will be a whole new process. It's not that Macs are impervious to security threats and viruses -- they're not (see the most recent security updates here). It's more that Mac users have gotten away for years without worrying much about firewalls and antivirus protection -- and now, if you dual-boot into Windows XP SP2, you'll need third-party protection.


    They go on list recommendations for all of the firewall, spyware and virus protection that you need to buy.

    Windows security on your Mac - PCs

    If you don't want to believe me, at least believe CNET. They're one of the most popular and, also, credible tech resources around. I am not making this stuff up.

    :typing
    Last edit by Sheri257 on Jan 2, '07
  6. by   sunnyjohn
    Windows Security on Your Mac

    For many longtime Mac fans, maintaining PC security will be a whole new process. It's not that Macs are impervious to security threats and viruses -- they're not (see the most recent security updates here). It's more that Mac users have gotten away for years without worrying much about firewalls and antivirus protection -- and now, if you dual-boot into Windows XP SP2, you'll need third-party protection.
    Windows is tha main part of the problem here. Simple soution, don't dual-boot into Windows! (*Sunny spits and crosses herself*)

    Yeah, The Mac OS is not the end-all. Some smart-aleks will eventually start writing a bunch of nasty stuff to mess up our great track record.

    Yeah, there is some software you won't be able to run, but most Mac users realize they can find better alternatives. My DF is a heavy duty user, more than 99.9999% of the public/private. He uses both in his professional life and prefers the Mac. I was a PC lover, but had to grudgingly admit my love for MAC

    People use what's best for them, PC or Mac. No need for worries.
  7. by   Spidey's mom
    As a pc user who is looking seriously into Mac . . . .why in the world would I want to even use Windows if I switch? I'm not that happy with it in the first place.

    For me personally, I'll be very happy with all that comes with Mac.

    I can email, right? I can cruise the net, right? I can log onto allnurses? I can do photo stuff?

    No worries . . . sunny, you are funny . . . (sunny spits and crosses herself).

    steph
  8. by   ginger58
    [QUOTE=lizz;1997410]What is with the condescending ... you're so glad this isn't life or death information. Don't accuse me of spreading misinformation when I haven't...I never said the Mac OS was going to get infected...use of the Windows OS ... which is what Apple is promoting ... 'here comes the viruses.' So, get your facts straight before you or your consultant goes off on some rant about something I didn't say.
    Well, that's just great ... and something a Mac user who's not had much experience with viruses would say."

    LIZZ, I believe you've said it all. The end!
  9. by   Bonny619
    Exactly!!! All I can tell you is this was the best purchase ever. I love my huge imac, it is worlds different than running windows.


    Quote from stevielynn
    As a pc user who is looking seriously into Mac . . . .why in the world would I want to even use Windows if I switch? I'm not that happy with it in the first place.

    For me personally, I'll be very happy with all that comes with Mac.

    I can email, right? I can cruise the net, right? I can log onto allnurses? I can do photo stuff?

    No worries . . . sunny, you are funny . . . (sunny spits and crosses herself).

    steph
  10. by   chickapin
    This is driving me crazy! It's Mac - not MAC. It's shorthand for Macintosh, not an acronym.

    Anyway, I switched to Mac in 2002 after the worst experience w/ Dell computers. I do still use Windows when I have to (mainly at work), but at home I run it on my own system that I built myself by hand. That computer hardly ever gets turned on honestly, and I built it entirely due to boredom.

    My husband is a die-hard PC fan himself but even he doesn't have much crap to say about Macs these days and he understands my love for them. There are still a lot of people who believe Apples are the same computers that they were just 5 or 10 years ago, even though they haven't touched one since 1999. They are so different now, and that's why they are gaining in popularity. You CAN upgrade them yourself (the extent of which depends on if you have a desktop or laptop though). The Macbook has an easily accessible SATA harddrive that can be switched out as easily as replacing RAM.

    I take my Macbook to class with me every day. I don't have binders filled with thousands of powerpoints printed on dead trees. It's all on my Macbook, which has never crashed since I've had it. <3 it.

    And since this was brought up - they make Microsoft Office (Word, Excel, Powerpoint) for Mac so there's really no issue with switching between the 2 systems. I've never had an issue with sending documents back and forth between people.
  11. by   penguin2
    Quote from stevielynn
    As a pc user who is looking seriously into Mac . . . .why in the world would I want to even use Windows if I switch? I'm not that happy with it in the first place.

    For me personally, I'll be very happy with all that comes with Mac.

    I can email, right? I can cruise the net, right? I can log onto allnurses? I can do photo stuff?

    No worries . . . sunny, you are funny . . . (sunny spits and crosses herself).

    steph

    Truthfully you won't even miss windows!! I would never go back to windows OR a pc, in fact I don't care if Mac now offers windows-- who needs it??
  12. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from penguin2
    Truthfully you won't even miss windows!! I would never go back to windows OR a pc, in fact I don't care if Mac now offers windows-- who needs it??
    Exactly!

    steph
  13. by   jnette
    ahhhhhhhhhhh.... just found this thread and thought I'd refresh it a bit.

    I'm all giddy, because I've just ordered a brand spanking new Mac Book Pro !!!

    I've been wanting one for awhile now...... my son got a MacBook Pro 4 yrs ago when he joined the Navy, and swore then he'd never, EVER go back to Windows, Microsoft, and now the dreaded Vista. He's the one that turned me on to Macs, as I didn't know much about them before, and went with the "usual".

    Then last year, his GF gave me her old Mac "Clamshell" she used for years before she upgraded. So I got her little antique, and it was great just learning my way around.

    So now a year has passed, and while my PC still runs fine, I've been craving a good Mac laptop. So I ordered mine last noc online from the Apple Store, and it's on its way!!!

    I can hardly wait for it to arrive. As someone mentioned above, my son agrees that the Mac support peeps are simply the BEST. Really friendly and really WANTING to assist you.. never have that "attitude" you hear on the other end of the phone with the "others".

    Not that he's had to use them much, but still... nice to know.

    Everything I have learned and experienced with Mac so far has been above and beyond my expectations. I can see why they are more expensive.. as with anything else, "ya get what ya pay for"! But in the long haul, they are worth every penny and then some.

    I can't wait.. is it here yet?

    I can't wait.. I can't wait.. I can't wait.....................


    The only thing I can think of that I still need an answer for is where and how to make smilies Mac compatible in emails.

    Incredimail is suppose to be working becoming Mac compatible.. but they've been saying that for years. :stone

    I have a hard time writing/emailing without my beloved smilies, so I hope someone has some answers for this... or that Mac would come up with some rabbit in a hat for me.

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