The Nursing Math Thread - page 5

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  1. by   TishaNurse
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  2. by   nyemt195488
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  3. by   mzthang2260
    can some one tell me how these two problems should be set up?


    1.
    order: 1250ml in 15h
    drop factor: 10gtt/ml
    flow rate: 14gtt/min.


    after 7h 500ml remain. recalculate in mcgtt/min?



    2.
    order: 180mg/kg in 1000ml for 100mins.
    patient weighs 75kg
    calculate in ml/h?
  4. by   B_santafe
    Ok, let's get this straight: Your order is: give 1250ml in 15 hr, drop factor is 10gtt/ml, rate 14gtt/min. After 7hrs 500ml are remaining , recalculate rate.I think you need to focus in what is asking: recalculate the remaining 500ml for the following 7hrs. With the data you have it should be 500ml / 7hr (420min) and multiply by drop factor of 10gtt/ml (500/420x10=11.9=12gtt/min)

    In your second problem:
    I really do not understand the question, there is something missing. Order 180mg/kg, pt's weight 75kg, 1000 in 100 min? Waht is the concentration of the medication in the 1000ml? or do you need to know how fast you will give the 1000 in 100 minutes (10ml/min) I really do not know whatis the question asking because 180x75=13500 but you cannot do anything else since you do not have the medication concentration.

    I am sorry, I try to help, if some one give you a better answer, please let me know!
  5. by   Daytonite
    Quote from mzthang2260
    can some one tell me how these two problems should be set up?
    1.
    order: 1250ml in 15 hours
    drop factor: 10gtt/ml
    flow rate: 14gtt/min.
    after 7 hours 500ml remains. Recalculate in micro gtt/min?

    2.
    order: 180mg/kg in 1000ml for 100 minutes.
    patient weighs 75kg
    calculate in ml/hour
    #1 - 15 hours minus 7 hours = 8 hours left for 500 mL to infuse in micro gtts/minute. Microdrip tubing has a drop factor of 60 drops/mL. You must convert hours to minutes. So, your new problem is:
    Amount to give: 500 mL
    Drop factor: 60 gtts/mL
    Time: 8 hours

    500 mL/8 hours (amount to give) x 60 gtts/mL (drop factor) x 1 hour/60 minutes (conversion factor) = 62.5 gtts/minute, roundd off to 63 gtts/minute
    #2 - The problem is really quite simple. It is asking you to give 1000 mL in 100 minutes. The amount of the drug to be mixed in the solution is not being addressed and that information is just there to distract you. You need a conversion factor to change the minutes to hours. So,
    1000 mL/100 minutes (amount to give) x 60 minutes/1 hour (conversion factor) = 600 mL/hour (infusion rate)
  6. by   B_santafe
    Quote from Daytonite
    #1 - 15 hours minus 7 hours = 8 hours left for 500 mL to infuse in micro gtts/minute. Microdrip tubing has a drop factor of 60 drops/mL. You must convert hours to minutes. So, your new problem is:
    Amount to give: 500 mL
    Drop factor: 60 gtts/mL
    Time: 8 hours

    500 mL/8 hours (amount to give) x 60 gtts/mL (drop factor) x 1 hour/60 minutes (conversion factor) = 62.5 gtts/minute, roundd off to 63 gtts/minute
    #2 - The problem is really quite simple. It is asking you to give 1000 mL in 100 minutes. The amount of the drug to be mixed in the solution is not being addressed and that information is just there to distract you. You need a conversion factor to change the minutes to hours. So,
    1000 mL/100 minutes (amount to give) x 60 minutes/1 hour (conversion factor) = 600 mL/hour (infusion rate)
    Thank you, I was confused! I knew I have to calculate the remaining hours (8) but once I started I went back to 7, that's why its very important to double check math questions!! I do have a question, why do I need to change the drop factor to micro (60) since that information was not given in the problem? Should I change it even though it was not given every time that I have results with low gtt/min?
  7. by   B_santafe
    Quote from B_santafe
    Ok, let's get this straight: Your order is: give 1250ml in 15 hr, drop factor is 10gtt/ml, rate 14gtt/min. After 7hrs 500ml are remaining , recalculate rate.I think you need to focus in what is asking: recalculate the remaining 500ml for the following 8hrs. With the data you have it should be 500ml / 8hr (480min) and multiply by drop factor of 10gtt/ml (500/480x10=10.4=10gtt/min=60gtt/ml)

    In your second problem:
    I really do not understand the question, there is something missing. Order 180mg/kg, pt's weight 75kg, 1000 in 100 min? Waht is the concentration of the medication in the 1000ml? or do you need to know how fast you will give the 1000 in 100 minutes (10ml/min= 600ml/hr) I really do not know what is the question asking because 180x75=13500 but you cannot do anything else since you do not have the medication concentration.

    I am sorry, I try to help, if some one give you a better answer, please let me know!
    10ml/min=600ml/hr which is the infusion rate!
    Last edit by B_santafe on Aug 5, '08
  8. by   Daytonite
    Quote from b_santafe
    thank you, i was confused! i knew i have to calculate the remaining hours (8) but once i started i went back to 7, that's why its very important to double check math questions!! i do have a question, why do i need to change the drop factor to micro (60) since that information was not given in the problem? should i change it even though it was not given every time that i have results with low gtt/min?
    that information was given to you in the problem. the problem said: "recalculate in mcgtt/min". mcgtt, or microdrop tubing, can only be accomplished with pediatric tubing and the drip factor for it is 60 drops/ml. yes, you needed to change the drip rate in order to get the correct answer. the iv in the first problem should have infused at 83cc/hour (1250cc over 15 hours) but "got away" and infused faster than it was supposed to (750cc in 7 hours, or 107cc/hour). so, i would assume that the iv tubing was changed to pediatric drip tubing in order to control the rate of infusion better. that happened in hospitals a lot before all ivs were put on iv pumps.
  9. by   beth66335
    Quote from B_santafe
    Thank you, I was confused! I knew I have to calculate the remaining hours (8) but once I started I went back to 7, that's why its very important to double check math questions!! I do have a question, why do I need to change the drop factor to micro (60) since that information was not given in the problem? Should I change it even though it was not given every time that I have results with low gtt/min?
    The original post of the problem says recalculate the remaining fluid in mcgtts; that would be microdrops which is a 60gtt/min set...was that a mistype? If not then it is stated in the problem, just in the second half. Sorry I just noticed Daytonite answered this!
    Last edit by beth66335 on Aug 5, '08
  10. by   B_santafe
    Quote from beth66335
    Your original post of the problem says recalculate the remaining fluid in mcgtts...was that a mistype?
    No, I just did not pay attention when I was answering the question! so I got confused and got a wrong answer! But now I get it
  11. by   beth66335
    Quote from B_santafe
    No, I just did not pay attention when I was answering the question! so I got confused and got a wrong answer! But now I get it
    Sorry I just realized you were not the original poster!lol:imbar
  12. by   B_santafe
    Quote from beth66335
    Sorry I just realized you were not the original poster!lol:imbar
    That's ok, I was trying to help and then I got everything confused ad gave wrong answers, well at least I realized after I read the posting and I am very grateful that I was corrected! since that made me realized what I did wrong :imbar. I am studying for my final tomorrow and I entered the web and read the problem I though "I can help!" but I did not double check my answers and there you have I WAS GIVING WRONG ANSWERS . Good that my mistake was cleared. :wink2:
  13. by   mnbvcxz
    Quote from Buttercup_fields
    Hi I found the following site good for IV math problems.
    http://www.accd.edu/sac/nursing/math/ivprob.html
    Hey thanks for the site.

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