School's hidden agenda, "NCLEX pass rate: Weed out students who will not pass" - Page 9

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  1. May 24, '12 by
    Um...hate to tell ya but this is every school agenda. It makes them look good plus, honestly if it were that easy, I would hate to see how any worse some of the nurses that come out would be. I've seen plenty that I have to wonder what school would let them through..?
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  2. May 24, '12 by
    I think you missed the point, that passing nclex seemed the schools ONLY agenda
    Quote from Annachu512
    Um...hate to tell ya but this is every school agenda. It makes them look good plus, honestly if it were that easy, I would hate to see how any worse some of the nurses that come out would be. I've seen plenty that I have to wonder what school would let them through..?
  3. May 24, '12 by
    Quote from morte
    I think you missed the point, that passing nclex seemed the schools ONLY agenda
    If this conversation is even happening in front of a student, it is probably because the school is in close to that 75% mark. In which case, they should be busting their a$$ to get the score up so their students are not screwed. How do you think it looks for the students out there applying for jobs when their alma-mater looses accreditation. They are protecting themselves and their students.
  4. May 25, '12 by
    That is an OPEN agenda at my skool, which is fine with me. My entire program, start to finish was challenging and prepared us well for the NCLEX and the profession.

    What I don't like are the schools that do a crappy job of preparing students, then rely on an End-of-Program test like the ATI or HESI to do their weeding out for them.
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  5. May 25, '12 by
    If your school wasn't preparing you to take/pass the NCLEX I would be concerned as you have to pass it in order to enter practice.

    That should not be the only focus of school! There should be a clinical focus preparing you to have the practical skills to function as a nurse, and a theoretical focus that prepares you to think critically using a fund of knowledge.
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  6. May 25, '12 by
    Sigh, they get the money and run......they allow students to go through the program, then fail them (don't allow them to graduate) AFTER collecting the tuition. This is dishonest. If any of these schools get federal aid of any kind, I would think the feds might be interested.
    If, after you are finished your schooling, you need any additional study to pass NCLEX, either you or your school, or both, have failed.
    Quote from grownuprosie
    If this conversation is even happening in front of a student, it is probably because the school is in close to that 75% mark. In which case, they should be busting their a$$ to get the score up so their students are not screwed. How do you think it looks for the students out there applying for jobs when their alma-mater looses accreditation. They are protecting themselves and their students.
  7. May 25, '12 by
    thank you. We had very little discussion of NCLEX when I was in school (as ruby would say, when the dinasours roamed) I am thinking that was because they knew they were preparing us so well that that base was already covered.
    Quote from de2013
    If your school wasn't preparing you to take/pass the NCLEX I would be concerned as you have to pass it in order to enter practice.

    That should not be the only focus of school! There should be a clinical focus preparing you to have the practical skills to function as a nurse, and a theoretical focus that prepares you to think critically using a fund of knowledge.
  8. May 25, '12 by
    Quote from morte
    Sigh, they get the money and run......they allow students to go through the program, then fail them (don't allow them to graduate) AFTER collecting the tuition. This is dishonest. If any of these schools get federal aid of any kind, I would think the feds might be interested.
    If, after you are finished your schooling, you need any additional study to pass NCLEX, either you or your school, or both, have failed.
    I get what you are saying, but the level of responsibility in this situation in my opinion is about 25% faculty, 75% student. It's up to us to pass the class. By your logic, it is wrong to allow students to fail any class in general. A teacher can only go so far. It's up to us to meet them in the middle and learn the material. The school is required to prepare us for licensure and practice. If a student can't pass the NCLEX, they have not adequately been prepared and must be given some remedial attention.

    I'll admit I do understand why one would feel the way you do. After all, education is expensive and schools want to boost their income. I'm sure there legitimately is some blurring of the lines here when it comes to the motives. Ultimately, though, as a student, I like thinking my I structures might be paying attention to my potential to succeed at the NCLEX and they might pull me aside at some point and say, "We need to work on this." After all, that is what I am paying for in my tuition.
  9. May 25, '12 by
    Ha! I structures! That was supposed to say instructors.
  10. May 25, '12 by
    Where in heavens name, did you get that idea out MY post????? That is not at all what i was saying! If students have been admitted that are not going to make it, flunk their butts right out! Don't allow them to continue, wasting their money and their time!
    Quote from ixchel
    I get what you are saying, but the level of responsibility in this situation in my opinion is about 25% faculty, 75% student. It's up to us to pass the class. By your logic, it is wrong to allow students to fail any and learn the material. The school is required to prepare us for licensure and practice. If a student can't pass the NCLEX, they have not adequately been prepared and must be given some remedial attention.

    I'll admit I do understand why one would feel the way you do. After all, education is expensive and schools want to boost their income. I'm sure there legitimately is some blurring of the lines here when it comes to the motives. Ultimately, though, as a student, I like thinking my I structures might be paying attention to my potential to succeed at the NCLEX and they might pull me aside at some point and say, "We need to work on this." After all, that is what I am paying for in my tuition.