Scam Schools And Diploma Mills - page 5

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    There would be some who would pay to get past the BS that is waitlists and entrance process that is most nursing schools.

    Thing is, yeah, no legit school would EVER take the credits and if you wanted to one day be a CRNA or NP you would have to start all over. But, for just RN, would it matter? RN and LPN are state board tests. As long as these rip-off colleges did allow you to sit for the NCLEX, it is it really a rip off? Some people would hock thier soul to get out of fast food or some miserable career. Nurses have it pretty good compared to a lot of careers.

    Now.. paying that much for any field that is not controlled by a liscensing board... that's a rip off.

    Personally, though.. I would have CNA and be in good with folks I worked at to get a job afterwards if I had to go that route. You will not be getting in on merit of the school, for sure.

    EDIT: 15k for PCT is a rip off. PCT, with the exception of a very few states that actually have a separate PCT state certification is a rip off. PCT = CNA most places in the country. But once again - must be controlled by a board not to be a rip off.
    Last edit by ctmed on Oct 9, '12
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    Funny thing is as I write this, the first Google ad underneath the topic is "Life Experience Degrees - Find Universities Offering Life Skills and Experience Degree LifeExperience.DegreeLeap.com"

    What are the odds of that lol.
    Last edit by JustBeachyNurse on Dec 23, '12
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    There is a school that comes to my mind when I read this thread. Carrington college (their third name already, they've had a few name changes...). No pre reqs required and 50 grand. It's very competitive for the community college here as it accepts only 32 students twice a year, so I've personally known two co workers and girls I was in a&p with who failed, and turned to Carrington instead so they could be nurses. It disgusts me that people who fail nursing pre reqs can go pay 50 grand to get their nursing degree from a school that doesn't require anything...
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    Ridiculous! But how can we find out how good our own school's Nursing program is? Is there a particular website with Nursing program reviews?
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    Quote from PRICHARILLAisMISSED
    Ridiculous! But how can we find out how good our own school's Nursing program is? Is there a particular website with Nursing program reviews?
    Some state boards of nursing publish a list of all of the approved nursing programs in the state along with the first-time NCLEX pass rates over a period of several years.

    Click on the link below to see a list of the schools in Oklahoma along with a 10-year history of NCLEX first-time pass rates. You'll notice that certain schools have consistently low pass rates across the years. http://www.ok.gov/nursing/nclexpass1.pdf
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    Quote from TheCommuter
    Some state boards of nursing publish a list of all of the approved nursing programs in the state along with the first-time NCLEX pass rates over a period of several years.

    Click on the link below to see a list of the schools in Oklahoma along with a 10-year history of NCLEX first-time pass rates. You'll notice that certain schools have consistently low pass rates across the years. http://www.ok.gov/nursing/nclexpass1.pdf
    Thank you for this.

    In your Experience, is the NCLEX pass rate the only yard stick I should be looking at? I've learned that passing a test is different than actually applying knowledge in the real world.
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    Quote from PRICHARILLAisMISSED
    Thank you for this.

    In your Experience, is the NCLEX pass rate the only yard stick I should be looking at? I've learned that passing a test is different than actually applying knowledge in the real world.
    A nursing program's local reputation in the healthcare community also plays a role. In some cities, hospitals employ very unspoken practices of not hiring graduates from certain programs because of a poor local reputation and perceived low quality of the education.
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    I attend a for profit school...is it expensive-YES. However, my school will become NLNAC accredited in January 2013 and the pass rate for NCLEX is in the 90% range. To me this is all that matters.

    If the school is accredited, I will be able to further my education. I called several colleges and they stated "as long as the school is NLNAC accrediated, we will accept the credits."


    With that being said, a lot of schools have no intention of becoming NLNAC accredited and people attend these schools because they are told "we are in the process." I don't believe people understand the importance of this accrediation.If the school is not listed on the website under candidacy-the school has no intention of trying.


    I live in Florida and diploma mills are EVERYWHERE-one school that I looked at (which will remain nameless because a lot of people on this forum attend this school) bold faced lied to me and said "oh we are in the process." I came home called NLNAC and the rep. told me "no this school hasn't applied for candidacy." So I called the school back and asked when they applied-well the woman seemed to understand that I have done my homework...she actually told me she"had an emergency" and hung up on me. The school charges 60k for a two year degree.

    Everyone has to make desicions based on their circumstance-however, attend a school that is NLNAC accredited so you aren't stuck with a degree that isn't worth anything.

    BTW if my school doesn't receive the accrediation? I will quit and enroll in an LPN program.
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    Quote from de2013
    These schools really bother me for two reasons:

    1. They prey on the students that want to get into nursing but don't have the academics. The students should know better but they are blinded.
    Me, too.
    Some of these schools in my area prey on people who dropped out of high school or couldn't handle community college. They offer a very attractive "easy way" into nursing or dental assisting programs--no GED or HS diploma, no minimum GPA required--and claim that healthcare is a high-demand field with job security.

    My mom does nails and she has plenty of ditzy young clients with questionable intelligence who want to get into nursing. I looked into these schools as a backup plan, in case I didn't get into a BSN program.

    I noticed that one particular school offers "Nursing I" and "Nursing Clinical I" before offering biology or A&P of any sort. This is likely to keep the interest of new students, because who cares about pre-reqs? These schools know that people hate having to take "useless" classes...

    "I just want to skip through pre-reqs and get to the nursing already!" I paraphrase, from a different thread...
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    Quote from Red35
    I attend a for profit school...is it expensive-YES. However, my school will become NLNAC accredited in January 2013 and the pass rate for NCLEX is in the 90% range. To me this is all that matters.

    If the school is accredited, I will be able to further my education. I called several colleges and they stated "as long as the school is NLNAC accrediated, we will accept the credits."

    With that being said, a lot of schools have no intention of becoming NLNAC accredited and people attend these schools because they are told "we are in the process." I don't believe people understand the importance of this accrediation.If the school is not listed on the website under candidacy-the school has no intention of trying.

    I live in Florida and diploma mills are EVERYWHERE-one school that I looked at (which will remain nameless because a lot of people on this forum attend this school) bold faced lied to me and said "oh we are in the process." I came home called NLNAC and the rep. told me "no this school hasn't applied for candidacy." So I called the school back and asked when they applied-well the woman seemed to understand that I have done my homework...she actually told me she"had an emergency" and hung up on me. The school charges 60k for a two year degree.

    Everyone has to make desicions based on their circumstance-however, attend a school that is NLNAC accredited so you aren't stuck with a degree that isn't worth anything.

    BTW if my school doesn't receive the accrediation? I will quit and enroll in an LPN program.
    I bet you mean chamberlain????


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