regarding rotation

  1. Hi everyone
    Here in england we have placements that cover from one week to fourteen weeks.If you do the adult branch of nursing, we do not have placements on childrens. Is that how it works over there?
    Years ago it did not matter what branch you worked
    in you still covered all the other areas.How times change.

    are your nursing programms diploma or degree and are they three years the same as england
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  3. by   peaceful2100
    Well, over here in the united states for the RN we have the diploma program which is a 3 year program. There are not very many diploma programs that are left but they still exist. Then there is the associate's in nursing degree (ADN or ASN depends on the school) which is a 2-3 year program and then you have the Bachelor's in nursing degree (BSN) which is a 4-5 year program. All 3 programs will lead to taking the same test to obtain a license to become a RN and if there is a pay difference among the degrees it is at some places and it is not very much some place's the highest I ever heard was $2.00 more an hour for having a BSN over a ADN.

    Over here as far as I know all schools require you to go through all the rotations children, adults, psych, community and other rotations regardless of what area you plan on going into.

    clinicals at my school range anywhere from 3 weeks-6 weeks depending on the area and the longest clinical we have is our senior capstone which is about 9 weeks long.

    From my understanding nursing school in England versus nursing school in the united states is VERY different.
  4. by   NurseDixie
    Hotlooks,
    I am attending an ADN program (2 yr.) We have med-surg rotations for the 1st and 2nd semesters of the 1st year. In the 2nd year we have specialties (Peds, OB, Psych) in one semester and more med-surg in the last semester. I am 45, married, 1 stepdaughter, 2 cats, 1 dog and a dear,sweet husband. I have 1 more year (2 semesters) to go.
    Good Luck to you!
  5. by   Agnus
    Originally posted by hotlooks
    Hi everyone
    Here in england we have placements that cover from one week to fourteen weeks.If you do the adult branch of nursing, we do not have placements on childrens. Is that how it works over there?
    Years ago it did not matter what branch you worked
    in you still covered all the other areas.How times change.

    are your nursing programms diploma or degree and are they three years the same as england
    You're confused. So are we and we live with our crazy system.
    We Have Licensed Practical Nurses (LPN) who's training is generally 12-14 months of continious full time schooling. Some LPN schools break this up with semester breaks and summer breaks and spread it out. How do I explaind LPN. Well, she has some legal limitations on what she can do and often works under direct supervision of a Registered Nurse (RN). Every State has different laws on what an LPN can and can't do. Gets very confusing.
    There are several entry paths to RN. 3 year diploma as mentioned. 2 year Associate Degree (ADN) and 4 Year Bachelor Degree (BSN).
    Orriginally these degree programs took 2 and 4 years. There is so much material added to the Nursing part that today it is nearly impossible to get through the 2 year program in 2 years. (although they still call it that)

    We have a lot of course we call pre- and co-reqes. These are the Sciences and other general education courses that are required. Mostly you need to get these done before doing the nursing classes as the nursing is so intense. And in many program you can not enter, and in some cases even apply to enter, the nursing part until these or most of these are done.

    Now to complicate it even more there are variations of these programs. One (I read on this board) where you can get a Bachelors in something else then in one year get your RN. I hear there are programs where you come out with a Masters Degree (I am not sure how this works exactly)

    Today most of us either get the ADN or the BSN. Usually single young girls are in the BSN program. Older folks with families etc. go the ADN route.
    Many with the ADN later go on to get their BSN
    It is crazy. If you watch this board you will find we all long for a simpler way and a single system for entry. But so far one one has a good answer to this.

    When we are in school we do "rotations" in diffrent departments. These usually range from 3 to 6 weeks. We generally cover every area. OB, pediatrics, adult medical surgical, Operationg room, emergency, psyc, you name it. We might also do home health care, public and or community health, school nuring, MD office rotations etc. Everyone usually does not get to every speciality and everyone does not do rotations out side the hospital. However adult med-surg, OB, Peids, and psyc are all standard and all required by all schools.

    Now I have a question for you. Are you saying you go though school either specilizing in adult or child care? How does this work?
    Last edit by Agnus on May 6, '02
  6. by   hotlooks
    yes first you do 12months common foundation, which is were we are all together adult, mental health, children learning dis.This is were we have a lot of presentations to do also exams and assignments.we also have to build up a portfolio which we have to submit as this goes with part of your grades.Before you can even enter the second year, you have to have passed all the modules.The second year starts with you in your chosen branch eg, adult, childrens you then only specalise in that branch.You do get a choice to do a 4week placement in mental health or learning dis but not childrens,we still have to do research evidence to cover outcomes in childrens to give, us an idea of childrens ,but that is as far as you go.confused.I think the systems are very different yours seems much harder to enter than the english way,i would totally loose track it seems more intense.
    am i right.
  7. by   Agnus
    Originally posted by hotlooks
    ...The second year starts with you in your chosen branch eg, adult, childrens you then only specalise in that branch.You do get a choice to do a 4week placement in mental health or learning dis but not childrens,we still have to do research evidence to cover outcomes in childrens to give, us an idea of childrens ,but that is as far as you go...I think the systems are very different yours seems much harder to enter than the english way,...it seems more intense.
    am i right.
    It does sound like ours is harder to get in. I am intrigued that you specilize in your basic education. By comparison it does sound more intense for us and INTENSE it is.

    I know many people who don't know where they want to specilize while they are in school. What would happen with these folks?

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