Quit nursing school due to head games. - page 4

As some of you know, I had a strange clinical instructor the semester. If you don't know my situation, see post in the general discussion area from 1-18-03. Yesterday, I met with the instructor to... Read More

  1. by   mattsmom81
    Originally posted by MishlB
    I have found that there are "old school" nurses, who believe in these scare tactics to see if you have got what it takes.

    Please don't generalize like this...I am an 'old school nurse' and never would I subject another nurse to bad treatment, nor would I allow it to occur unchecked if I observed this from another staff member.

    My own PERSONAL experience: SOME of the YOUNGER nurses with advanced degrees or positions of authority CAN be some of the worst to dish out ugly, vindictive treatment to others they perceive as 'less' than them. Let's be fair please...and resist generalizing...it doesn't help matters.
    Last edit by mattsmom81 on Feb 1, '03
  2. by   BellaTerra2002
    Oh my god! Turning on CNN!
  3. by   researchrabbit
    I had a very difficult time with one instructor (YOUNGER THAN ME). It was so awful I almost quit (except that then my ex-husband would have gloried in it, so I couldn't -- yes, if it hadn't been for pure contrariness I couldn't have made it).

    Between my fulltime job, the stress of nursing school, the divorce and my kids, I could not have continued with the abusive comments/behavior for another clinical rotation. By the time she got done with me, my confidence was shot. And at that point, I only had one rotation left to go. So I DO understand why Bio dropped out (but I do hope you try again another place).

    All my other instructors were heaven to work with and I can't tell you how much I appreciate them....and BTW, THAT instructor was let go.
  4. by   MishlB
    Originally posted by mattsmom81
    Please don't generalize like this...I am an 'old school nurse' and never would I subject another nurse to bad treatment, nor would I allow it to occur unchecked if I observed this from another staff member.

    My own PERSONAL experience: SOME of the YOUNGER nurses with advanced degrees or positions of authority CAN be some of the worst to dish out ugly, vindictive treatment to others they perceive as 'less' than them. Let's be fair please...and resist generalizing...it doesn't help matters.
    I said SOME old school nurses, not all. I did not direct the comment at you or anyone else, but it is what I HAVE EXPERIENCED! That is NOT generalizing....geez.
  5. by   Jay-Jay
    Bio, wish I'd seen this thread before you quit, so I could have offered my encouragement. So sorry for you!!

    I too went back to school to be a nurse after getting a degree in Biology. I too had a very bad experience with a clinical instructor. She was down on me because I was hearing impaired. Even after I bought an amplified stethescope, she still insisted, without ever checking me out on it, that I could not do a proper chest or BP assessment. We threatened to take her to human rights over this.

    She flunked me, and I had my evaluation reviewed by 2 other instructors, after I'd been allowed to put in my own comments and correct many, many inaccuracies and out and out lies that she'd put on it. They passed me, and I went on to (eventually) get my RN. I had a few other serious bobbles in my journey after that, but in the end I succeeded.

    SO, just keep on truckin'!! This particular instructor was SOOOO bad that after the semester was over we had a special meeting with the department chair (our whole clinical group -- I wasn't the only one to suffer at her hands!) and she was put on probation, and told to take some courses on teaching.

    The college also took a serious look at the treatment of handicapped students, and the next semester they had a special department to assist them! I don't know how much of a role my treatment played in this, but I'm sure it had some influence. (Our lawyer just happened to be on the Board of Directors of the college!! )

    If it was me, I'd complain, complain, complain. I think you are being judged very unfairly. Interpersonal skills are very important in nursing, but they have nothing to do with how many buddies you have in the program! Like you, I was pretty much of a loner when I took my RN, mainly due to being so much older than the other students. I cannot say this affected my performance in the least! What right has she to judge you for this???
  6. by   catrn10
    Please don't quit, listen to the others above. I had a Nursing instuctor in OB that was friends with the instructor for peds AND the one for Medical. She had 4 children, I had 4 children. She decided that I "had no business in Nursing". She and the other two got together and tried very hard to run me out of the program. I was a 4.0 student. I had never had any problems before. My work remained good, although I did end up with a few B's that semester. They even had a conference with me at one point to tell me I was unstable because a child at the daycare had sat on my lap! I had "shown an undue interest in the child". The med . Instructer balled me out because I held my breath while changing a sterile dressing for the first time, I was so nervous, and when I realized it, I let out my breath. She said I acted like I was bored, and it sounded like a sigh to her. The peds instructor made me stay all day with a 4 month old baby that was being taken off the vent to die "because I needed to experience that". As I had stood with my own baby and watched him die, under similar circumstances , and she was aware of it, I didn't see why that was necessary. No one else had to go through an experience like that.Nor was anyone else sent to the peds ICU for that matter. It was the worst semester of my life, and the reason I haven't gone back for a Master's. When I graduated, with honors, pregnant, the meds instructor came up to me at graduation, before we filed in and told me I had no "right" to have another baby, I couldn't support the ones I had. As I was married, and my husband worked, we weren't on welfare, I don't know how she came up with that. 10 years later, I am still a Nurse, and a good one. Last I heard, the peds instructor and the OB one got fired from their hospital jobs, they were well hated by the people they worked with too. And the Med. instructor took off and married a Doctor or something. As for me, I have my ups and downs as an agency Nurse, but I have sent 2 kids to college, am sending 3 more when the time comes, I own my house and my car, I have not been on welfare, and I am a Darn good Nurse. I have plenty of references and letters to prove it.I have also precepted several students during their clinical management and recieved little presents from the students(a delightful suprise!) and wonderful thank you notes from their instructors for the good experience I gave their students.Don't quit. Get even and graduate from a different school. Oh, and do go ahead and pursue the suggestions the others gave you, they're very good. Be a better Nurse than they were and always remember the poor students when they come through.
  7. by   wv_nurse 2003
    Its a terrible shame that you let this one instructor de-rail you from something you wanted. I agree with what has been posted--time for some soul searching and deciding if being a nurse is something you really want, and are willing to work for. If not, better to figure it out now rather than after you've invested years. If it is--dont let ANYONE keep you from it!! Transfer schools, whatever it takes to accomplish what YOU want!!!
  8. by   tazzyjo
    Well it's pretty obvious we all have experienced one instructor or another that should not be teaching...schools seem to forget that just because the person has a masters degree doesn't mean they are capable of teaching, they are capable of being a student and who knows if they were even very good students...

    "those that can do, those that can't teach!"
  9. by   hobbes
    I really think you should reconsider your choice to quit nursing. If nursing was a dream of yours and you quit your former job/career to pursue it, why let one person get in your way. I truly believe that anything worthwhile in life is not going to come easy. Trials and tribulations are part of life. Don't let one person have so much power over you. What would have happened if Albert Einstein had decided to give up on physics because a former teacher had proclaimed that he would never amount to anything? The point is to know yourself and know what you want out of life and don't let anybody stand in your way. Surely you don't want to look back while in your twilight years and regret not having pursued your dream because of one crazy instructor. Anyhow, best of luck in whatever you decide.
  10. by   mattsmom81
    Originally posted by MishlB
    I have found that there are "old school" nurses, who believe in these scare tactics to see if you have got what it takes. Who is benefitting if you quit? Nobody, that's who. You need to reconsider, and get on with it. Don't feel sorry for yourself and FINISH!!! You can do it. After all, these nasty haggy people are not laying awake at night planning your demise...you know this don't you??
    While I'm sure you meant to be supportive, I have reposted the entry to note there is no 'some' included in your statement.

    You refer to 'old school' nurses who believe in scare tactics,' then later 'these nasty haggy people' both of which read like a generalized slam to older nurses. These words can make a young student fearful of older nurses and create generation barriers. Generalizations can perpetuate prejudice.

    The OP does not mention her tormentor's age...you do.

    There are good and bad in every group...can't we just leave it at that? I hope so.
    Last edit by mattsmom81 on Feb 3, '03
  11. by   2banurse
    Originally posted by hobbes
    I really think you should reconsider your choice to quit nursing. If nursing was a dream of yours and you quit your former job/career to pursue it, why let one person get in your way. I truly believe that anything worthwhile in life is not going to come easy. Trials and tribulations are part of life. Don't let one person have so much power over you. What would have happened if Albert Einstein had decided to give up on physics because a former teacher had proclaimed that he would never amount to anything? The point is to know yourself and know what you want out of life and don't let anybody stand in your way. Surely you don't want to look back while in your twilight years and regret not having pursued your dream because of one crazy instructor. Anyhow, best of luck in whatever you decide.
    I totally agree. No one person should have the power to take away your dreams. Although it is probably true that there are some schools and some instructors that have lost sight about putting forward the best nurses they can and use scare tactics instead, the majority I feel want you to succeed. It is in a school's best interest to graduate students. If you, BioRN, decide not to look into other nursing schools, the desire can't be that strong to be a nurse. I do hope though that you give it another shot. Nursing school is only a very small percentage of your nursing career. I urge you to give it some more consideration before just giving up altogether.

    Kris
  12. by   CseMgr1
    I had a nursing instructor during my junior year in nursing school, who rifled through my and another classmate's papers while we doing clinicals one evening, then went to the Chairman of the Medical-Surgical department and told her we were "cheating" on our Major Care Plans. She tried to get both of us thrown out of school. The charges of course, were groundless....and they backed off, when my classmate threatened to bring a lawsuit, which would "shut their doors". Even though we were exonerated, I had cried for days afterwards, and it was only through the love and support of my husband (now my ex-husband), that I set foot back in that school. As it turned out, by the time I began my senior rotation, that irresponsible woman had disappeared into the woodwork.

    What goes around....comes around, Biorn =).
  13. by   jgg765
    Hello,
    Sorry to hear that why dont you just go to another school or talk to the Dean etc.

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