Practicing on each other - page 2

Did you have to stick/be stuck by other students in nursing school. I am okay with being practiced on with blood draws and shots but I cannot imagine having someone practice an IV on me. I really... Read More

  1. by   MishlB
    I don't understand why people are "shocked" when reading that students practice on students. You would rather enter clinicals and stick a frightened child, or a dehydrated elderly woman with not a vein in sight?? You need a little practice, even if it's one or two sticks, before you attempt a real patient, even if it's just to get the look of fright off your face. At least we could say, "no, this is not my first time."
  2. by   RedSox33RN
    I wouldn't mind being practiced on, since I'm diabetic and used to finger sticks, IV's, etc. I think I'd prefer to practice blood draws and IV's on a real person who isn't sick, at first. I think that bit of pressure would be off and you could concentrate on technique, not getting the blood to the lab quickly.

    But I must say - a catheter - no way! :lol:
  3. by   sox04
    Mish I was not shocked because I thought it is a bad idea, it just surprised me because I had not really heard of all of these different things being practiced on each other before. I'm not saying I think its a bad idea, in fact I wouldn't mind having people practice on me at all, and I also would like to practice on a real person too.
  4. by   truern
    MishlB, my favorite response when a patient asks how many times i've done a certain procedure: "i can't count the times i've ______" because most times i can't count them, as i've never done it

    not "exactly" a fib
  5. by   Gompers
    In my school we weren't allowed to do this. They used to, but then when HIV and hepatitis became so widespread, they decided it was safer to stop. We practiced on the fake arms and all that, of course. They also said we'd be trained on the job, and the school even didn't want to let us practice on patients in clinicals!!! Maybe they were afraid of being sued by a nervous student who fumbled and ended up with a needlestick? We all thought it was awful because we wanted to practice so bad! They told us if we really wanted experience before graduation, to go take a phlebotomy class at a community college over the summer. On my first job, during the hospital orientation they had two whole days for the new RNs to take IV classes and practice on each other. I was excepmt because I was going into NICU and there we don't even get to try for six months.

    Sorry for the rambling post! BTW, this was a 4-year BSN program, and I graduated six years ago.
  6. by   tylerlvn
    We practiced on fake arms in at school. Now that I am in clinicals I have done IV's and injections many times. The instructors always tells the patient that we are students and are learning and that there is a possibilty that if we do not "get it" with the first stick that they will then take over and do it (with IV's). Some people say "no way! your not practicing on me!" and that's fine. I really understand. If they do not want me to do it I just watch my instructor and try to learn as much as I can about the procedure. The first IV I ever put in - I was scared to death. I literally had sweat running down my face! The patient kept telling me "Your doing a great job. You are going to be fine. You are going to be a great nurse. BREATH" He was great. If I live to 100 I will never forget that guy. The patients and the nurses at the hospital I do clinicals at are great. I have been so lucky.
  7. by   belladelicious
    No fair! We're not allowed. My teacher said ever since the 80s, and HIV, they've stopped doing any practice like that w/anything involving needles. Oh well Giving injections, I don't think it's necessary that you practice on a student first. But, I wish I could practice inserting an iv on a student first..but oh well.
  8. by   MishlB
    Quote from belladelicious
    No fair! We're not allowed. My teacher said ever since the 80s, and HIV, they've stopped doing any practice like that w/anything involving needles. Oh well Giving injections, I don't think it's necessary that you practice on a student first. But, I wish I could practice inserting an iv on a student first..but oh well.
    Umm, so are you going to stick any of your patients?? We are at risk every day, and don't know who has something and who doesn't. You protect yourself just like you would with a patient. Am I missing something?? :uhoh21:
  9. by   sonja24
    I know when I was in an EMT-Intermediate class we had to do blood draws on each other. And even that didn't help. Not everyone has good veins to stick unfortuately.I was successful in class but sucked when I tried to do it at the hospital . Go figure. I hate IV's, but blood draws aren't bad.
    Last edit by sonja24 on Mar 1, '04
  10. by   lpn2bdec2004
    We practice everything on each other at our school. IV's,ID's,IM's, and SQ's. The whole sha-bang. I've done everything except for the IV's. I'm a little nervous for that.
  11. by   sabRN2b05
    At my school, we are only allowed to do SQ injections (NS) on each other. We use manequins for everything else (catheters, blood admin, IV's). I really wish we'd get to practice on each other, but I guess there are liability issues.
  12. by   belladelicious
    Quote from MishlB
    Umm, so are you going to stick any of your patients?? We are at risk every day, and don't know who has something and who doesn't. You protect yourself just like you would with a patient. Am I missing something?? :uhoh21:
    Hm..I was saying, personally, I don't think it's necessary to practice on eachother giving injections....b/c doing it on the models is good enough for me. I don't think it's very difficult, and the model is good enough for me. Where as w/IVs I'm worried, b/c the models are so much easier than real people.
  13. by   Ortho_RN
    Geesh.. I just don't see what the big deal is.. All this junk about HIV and Hepatitis being the reasons you don't practice on each other... Are you not gonna be sticking HIV and Hep patients.. Sure you will.. I pretty sure your classmates are 100x cleaner/safer than what some of your patients are gonna be.

    I couldn't imagine going in to start an IV on a patient having only practiced on a worthless rubber arm. Unless the veins in that arm move around, disappear etc,,, You are wasting your time..

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