Positive Thinking Is Useless By Itself - page 2

According to San (2006), positive thinking can be described as the practice of embracing the affirmative in our thoughts, our feelings, our actions, our reactions and our speech. Positive thinkers... Read More

  1. Visit  decembergrad2011 profile page
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    my gut reaction was, "nooooo! positive thinking is amazing!" but then i read the article. i have to say that i really agree, but i think starting with positive thinking is a start.

    i guess i also think of positive thinking as a concept dealing with perceptions of situations rather than bringing actions. i use it to pump up my own mood or change my point of view rather than bring about significant change in my life. i'm more likely to think, "i'm going to have a great day today" (my own attitude) than "i'll have enough money for bills at the end of the month" (a black and white reality). i hope that makes sense. but anyway, i think that positive thinking utilized in this way is extremely useful because it improves your mood, which improves your motivation, and also is likely to draw more people to you, thus strengthening your support system.

    [font=segoe ui]if you've had enough
    [font=segoe ui]of all your tryin'
    [font=segoe ui]just give up
    [font=segoe ui]the state of mind you're in
    [font=segoe ui]if you want to be somebody else,
    [font=segoe ui]if you're tired of fighting battles with yourself
    [font=segoe ui]if you want to be somebody else
    [font=segoe ui]change your mind
    - "change your mind" by sister hazel
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  2. Visit  tothepointeLVN profile page
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    There's a book called "Feeling Good" and I got one of the best pieces of advice from it which is unusual for a self help book.

    Motivation follows action not the other way round. You actually have to start doing something before you'll feel the motivation to do it. If you sit around waiting to be motivated nothing will happen. You have to endure that tiny bit of discomfort at first but then you'll get that motivation your lacking.
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  3. Visit  tothepointeLVN profile page
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    Quote from decembergrad2011
    . I'm more likely to think, "I'm going to have a great day today" (my own attitude)
    Well that's a little more than positive thinking. It's putting you in a position to do something about making your day great. The "I'm going to" part vs a generic happy "today is going to be a great day"

    I used to be Little Miss Sunshine and things worked out fine which reinforced my "positive thinking" but I never achieved anything because in my mind everything would be fine either way.
  4. Visit  tothepointeLVN profile page
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    Quote from Tragically Hip

    Some handicapped people may beg to differ, but people will believe what they believe. Have you ever encountered a person suffering from locked-in syndrome?
    One of the few times I've cried after a shift ( heck I'm tearing up now which is going to ruin my tough as nails attitude)

    Spiritually all I ask of who ever may be up there looking after us is that they look after the world as a whole and don't worry about me personally.

    The most ridiculous praise I've ever hear was a "Thank you Jesus" when the person in question found out I had a garage and didn't have to park my car on the street. I HOPE he has much better things to do that work out my parking situation for me.
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    Quote from tothepointeLVN
    There's a book called "Feeling Good" and I got one of the best pieces of advice from it which is unusual for a self help book.

    Motivation follows action not the other way round. You actually have to start doing something before you'll feel the motivation to do it. If you sit around waiting to be motivated nothing will happen. You have to endure that tiny bit of discomfort at first but then you'll get that motivation your lacking.
    Some behavioral researchers think that can-do positive attitude can lead to inaction by giving the person a psychological sense of accomplishment, as if he's accomplished something concrete, even before he acts. The pleasure is awarded prematurely.
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    Quote from Tragically Hip

    Some handicapped people may beg to differ, but people will believe what they believe.
    This reminds me of Glee, (for those who are fans). Coach Sylvester prayed very hard for her sister to "get better" when they were kids (she had downs syndrome). She never got better, so she lost faith.

    So what do you tell people who don't believe in the power of prayer? Or God?

    I too, feel that too many people rely solely on good thoughts. They want it so bad, so it'll happen, right? I thank reality tv and the new generation of parenting for this. It used to be "you can co anything, as long as you try". Now it's just "you can be anything you want to be"; there's no condition on it anymore. If you want it, it's yours.
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  7. Visit  decembergrad2011 profile page
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    *shrug* I think there is a difference between seeing the bright, yet realistic, side of things versus living in a daydream. I may subscribe to a different method of positive thinking, but I don't understand it to be someone really thinking they can wish something into existence. When I have led positive thinking groups with patients, I emphasize them increasing the amount of truthful positive statements/thoughts. I think there's also a difference between putting a positive spin on your day or focusing on your positive attributes, and wishing for $500, a car, or to graduate if you're failing.

    I'm perfectly okay with being an optimistic person. It's brought some great things to me, and allowed me to deal alright with the hardships. I probably could have still accomplished what I have being pessimistic, but I'm not sure I could have dealt with the hardships. The bad times are when positive thinking has been the most helpful for me.
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    Quote from Tragically Hip

    Some behavioral researchers think that can-do positive attitude can lead to inaction by giving the person a psychological sense of accomplishment, as if he's accomplished something concrete, even before he acts. The pleasure is awarded prematurely.
    I think your talking about "procrastination" rather then positive attitude.

    My thought about this topic is that one can have positive thoughts, but without action it's useless. Sure enough, I would not work if I "prayed" for someone to come out and "bless" me with house payments for the month. Even better, I could pray to win the lottery.

    This psychological method has its benefits and negatives, we can't just state that positive thinking is bad or good. It's a balance that comes complete with action and wisdom for example.
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    Quote from decembergrad2011

    I'm perfectly okay with being an optimistic person. It's brought some great things to me, and allowed me to deal alright with the hardships. I probably could have still accomplished what I have being pessimistic, but I'm not sure I could have dealt with the hardships. The bad times are when positive thinking has been the most helpful for me.
    I think in that regard we are what we are. I wax and wane between optimistic and pessimistic but that's more to do with BP than anything else. It does mean though I have to be able to function in both states and for the most part I do. So I can see both sides of the coin.
  10. Visit  dee78 profile page
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    I am a firm believer in positive thinking. My husband calls me a hopeless optimist. This coming from a "negative Nancy". I just choose to find the positive in a situation, sometimes it is much harder to find than in other situations but there usually is a silver lining. I don't think that those positive thoughts are what will get me closer to my goal but I do believe that they get me in the mindset to make things happen.

    For instance, I have been applying for job all over since before graduation. Seriously hunting consistently and have received countless rejection emails or nothing at all. My classmate has been doing the same thing but she let it get her down and stopped applying a month or so ago. I let it get me down for a day or two but then picked myself back up and applied for more. I have a nursing job now and she doesn't. So my positive thinking kept me going.

    But I do agree with you, positive thinking alone does not accomplish anything. I have no idea what "The Secret" is but I have never heard a motivational speaker say that positive affirmations alone were enough. It is just a way to get people in the right mindset to accomplish their goals.
  11. Visit  amzyRN profile page
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    I agree that positive thinking or "everything will be okay" does not always translate into positive outcomes. I think there is an element of denial in just thinking and saying "this will be okay", "you can do it", failure is not an option" etc., Like the OP said above sometimes failure is an option and it happens. Sometimes we won't be good at everything and might not be able to do other things, no matter how hard we try. I think seeing our failures in a more positive way is what positive thinking will help with. If I can feel good about my failures and mistakes and translate that into lessons learned and personal growth, then I will have transformed my failures into something positive.
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    Quote from ImKosher
    I think your talking about "procrastination" rather then positive attitude.
    I'm talking how self-help techniques in general sometimes itself leads to a sense of accomplishment and satisfaction, even though nothing useful has been done. It's not a matter of putting things off (procrastination), but rather, lacking the drive to follow through with constructive action. It has the effect of a drug.

    Quote from dee78
    But I do agree with you, positive thinking alone does not accomplish anything. I have no idea what "The Secret" is but I have never heard a motivational speaker say that positive affirmations alone were enough. It is just a way to get people in the right mindset to accomplish their goals.
    If you read The Secret, or see the flashy movie, they will tell you that having the right thoughts will attract the right people, the right opportunities, and the right stuff. I shook the DVD box thinking that the action plan/execution part may have been on the second disc, but there was no second disc.
  13. Visit  greenjungle profile page
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    Reality is a cold science of numbers. What is needed would be guarded/realistic optimism or defensive pessimism. There are just so many factors in human existence that are beyond our control, and no amount of prayers, positive thinking can bend reality. Action is needed within the spheres of control that we have influence over. As the late Stephen Covey explained, there are things within our control, events partially under our sway and the rest are totally beyond our grasp to change. We can only adapt to survive in every situation that we meet.
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