Please Help

  1. Today my husband was talking to a nurse friend of ours about me going to school. She was telling him that the school I plan to go to only graduate the top 10% of the nursing students so they can have a 100% NCLEX passing record. Is this legal? What happens to the other 90%? Should I call the school and ask about it? Now I'm worried that I'll waste my time and money if I'm not in the top 10% seems a little unfair to me. Please Help!
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  2. 12 Comments

  3. by   All_Smiles_RN
    That sounds illegal to me for sure. Definitely call the school and find out.
    ...Jennifer...
  4. by   Altra
    Well, let's relax and think about this for a minute. Is the school in total control of your grades? No - your score on a test is your score on a test - you're largely in control of that. You're in control of keeping your grades up.

    I don't want to sound harsh, but if I were a school administrator and I got a call from a new student accusing the school of something unethical ... well, I'm not sure I would have warm fuzzy feelings about the student.

    You were accepted! It's time to start this new venture on a positive, optimistic note! Good luck to you!
  5. by   Gator,SN
    Call the school yourself and ask how many students were in the class and graduated from the nursing program last month. I have never heard of a school that only graduates 10%. Every school has a minimum passing percentage rate or gpa that needs to be maintained. I'd ask for that information. If the school has a website it could probably be found on there.
    Good Luck!!! Gator
  6. by   Tweety
    Sounds like an urban legand to me. If 90% of the students are dropped or fail out there's something wrong with the program.

    They probably were referring to the natural process that happens in every nursing school that the number of graduates is sometimes drastically different than the number of students who start. Same thing happens in law schools, med schools, or any tough program, only the strong survive.

    Many of us lovingly refer to this as the "weeding out" process.
  7. by   IamRN
    Quote from 3rdShiftGuy
    Sounds like an urban legand to me. If 90% of the students are dropped or fail out there's something wrong with the program.
    I agree. To be accredited you have to show a certain passing ratio. I don't see how one could maintain accreditation only passing % of your students.

    OTOH, this is only the first of many "I heard's" that you will encounter. My best advice is to keep an open mind. I seem to remember many times when these "I heard that's" circulated within our student population. School is already intense enough w/o having to deal w/negative comments.
  8. by   Energizer Bunny
    Okay, I'm trying to figure out the math here and it's not working for me right now (too late in the day I think! LOL!) My school starts with 70-75 students (though this year they've added 20 more) and generally about 30-35 graduate at the MOST. They have a 92% first time NCLEX pass rate. I can't figure out where I am going with this but I am thinking that generally schools fail people because they fail and that's that. I can't imagine that a school would fail students unless they were really failing (isn't that on another thread too...?)
  9. by   beccaleigh72
    I am thinking this person had a bad experence with the school and just trying to put it down. I told him it was not likely that is was true.
  10. by   GMD
    I think you should call the school also. That just doesn't seem right. My school does have a different grading scale for the nursing students. For example 93-100=A, 87-93=B, and 80-87=C, where their other programs are 90-100=A, 80-90=B,etc... But other than that, there is no failing of students that are not in the top 10% of thier class. Check in to it, and good luck!
  11. by   manna
    Quote from 3rdShiftGuy
    Same thing happens in law schools, med schools, or any tough program, only the strong survive.
    Funny, I've always heard the opposite (particularly for graduate programs) - most of the weeding out is done in lower level classes, then those who are considered academically qualified enough to be admitted into their particular programs are encouraged and assisted as much as possible in order to graduate (with a great deal of self sacrifice and hard work along the way). I think the nursing program I'm beginning next week has like a 98-99% retention rate (so out of a class of 50 only 1-2 students drop or fail out in a 2 year period).
  12. by   francine79
    It sounds like stupid rumor to me. For one if this were true, those students would know that they really didn't fail and the whole "evil plot" would have been discovered already. I once had a nurse tell me that the people who run the NCLEX purposely fail people because they can't have everyone a bunch of nurses passing all the time. This comes from a nurse who it took 4 times to pass the boards.
  13. by   Tweety
    That might be urban legand too, as I've only known a couple of med students and only one law student, but that's what they said. I might also be thinking of a hollywood drama, "take a look around, only half of these people won't be here in four years". LOL You are right Organic Chemistry weeds out a lot of pre-med students. My class only had two drop out and no one fail out.


    Quote from manna
    Funny, I've always heard the opposite (particularly for graduate programs) - most of the weeding out is done in lower level classes, then those who are considered academically qualified enough to be admitted into their particular programs are encouraged and assisted as much as possible in order to graduate (with a great deal of self sacrifice and hard work along the way). I think the nursing program I'm beginning next week has like a 98-99% retention rate (so out of a class of 50 only 1-2 students drop or fail out in a 2 year period).
  14. by   Altra
    Quote from francine79
    I once had a nurse tell me that the people who run the NCLEX purposely fail people because they can't have everyone a bunch of nurses passing all the time. This comes from a nurse who it took 4 times to pass the boards.


    Yeah, what would the world come to if "everyone" passed boards "all the time." I love conspiracy theories.

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