Opinions Please! Long Story - page 2

Ok....... 2 weeks ago during my AP Class muscles pratical, a girl in my class asked me for an answer on the written portion of the pratical and I gave her the answer. Whatever.... maybe I shouldn't... Read More

  1. by   rebelwaclause
    Not to minimize your dilemma B_Matt, but to say it all seems like high school drama and a HUGE distraction from your goal of graduating school?

    I bet the drama queens (and kings) selected this situation as "monkey-of-the-week" and it will die in time. You don't have to stoop to anyone's level nor do you have to have your character analyzed by people who are unqualified to do so.

    Your posts always seem so spirited and on the up-and-up here. (I enjoy you!). Let that be a reminder to you when you are confronted with childish "stuff".

    Take care girlfriend!

    PS...If your professor has been doing this for awhile, he knows trends and personalities in students. If you've been on the level grade wise and otherwise - He''s probably not concerned with the ramblings of what looks like a snitch (your classmate). In fact, those who talk, yell and busy themselves too much are usually the ones trying to take the spotlight off themselves (in my opinion...of course!)

    "Silence is golden", and it seems like maybe your teacher is making a statement to the class that its time to get serious and back to work now.
    Last edit by rebelwaclause on Dec 7, '02
  2. by   rebelwaclause
    Originally posted by B_Matt
    OK for those of you who said I should speak with the professor at his office like just show up , or should I call him on the phone, or send him an email that I would like to speak with him, regarding an incident in class!

    B
    I wouldn't speak to him. If he has concerns, TRUST ME, he will come to you. You really don't know what was said, so going to him is a blind feat. Wait and see if it dies down. If it gets more serious, maybe you might consider asking him for a conference to "see how you're doing in class" instead of a confessional of potentially "cheating" on a test.

    He'll tell you then if you're "in big trouble"....
  3. by   2banurse
    I agree with kittyw. I know that my school has a very strong rule on cheating. It doesn't matter whether one person is cheating or the whole class, it is still wrong. Your professor seems like a reasonable sort, so if he has been supportable in the past...just continue to show him that you are that same person, despite the slip.

    Your ex-study partner though she might not have been wrong in reporting it,did carry it much too far and acted way immaturely...if I were you, I would keep my distance.

    Originally posted by kittyw
    Putting flame suit on....

    According to my schools honor code, if a student sees another student cheating then that student is required to report it or get blamed for cheating too. Quite frankly I think it was your study partners DUTY to go talk to the professor. It probably wouldn't have upset you so much if you WEREN'T involved - if you weren't one of the parties involved in the cheating (even in your minimal capacity). Now think about it ..... sounds like you were becoming a bit self-defensive ... making it HER fault and not YOURS.

    Right now I don't think the professor could do much, since he did not specifically see the cheating (as far as I know). But..... if he did see it then he can give all parties involved a failing grade - so please don't ever do it again. It's not worth it.

    As for the altercation - I wouldn't bring it up with the professor. If he feels that he needs to know, he'll ask you. Also - I'd get my grade back from the test first before considering talking to him about any of this. He probably will just watch the class like a hawk from now on. And you'll get out of the class just fine

    Lastly, you really do owe it to your study partner to tell her you're sorry. She wasn't running off to the professor everytime she thought someone was cheating .... she did it after she saw MULTIPLE cheaters. Plus, if anything, you will be around her in future classes and clearing the air now will be much easier then letting it fester.

    Hopefully you've learned a lesson here ..... keep your answers to yourself when you're testing but share info everywhere else. You're not helping the cheating student .... she's just getting through class and will end up in a terrible situation in nursing classes when she doesn't have an adequate background.

    You'll get through this, just remember that things have changed with the professor. He'll be watching more closely ... so don't do it.

    Ok .... withdrawing the wet noodle.

    Plus ... just think only just a little bit more left till Christmas break.
  4. by   fergus51
    DO NOT GO TO THE INSTRUCTOR!!! I have seen more than one student go to "try to clear the air" in my student days and it never turned out well. Clearing the air may well lead to you admitting to cheating, and even if you don't think it was serious and you learned your lesson, you have no way of knowing what your instructor's reaction will be (or your ex-study partner's). Let it go and die a natural death. Do you really want to risk going through a disciplinary hearing because you or your exstudy partner wouldn't drop it?
  5. by   PennyLane
    I agree with fergus. If you tell your instructor the whole story, he may be obligated to pursue disciplinary action against you. If he doesn't have hard proof right now, why offer it to him? If he asks to meet with you about it and directly questions you on what happened, then you'll have to be honest. But until then, I'd keep your mouth shut.

    At the same time, you may want to try and patch things up with your ex study partner, considering you may be in future classes together. BTW, why is she your ex study partner? Did you guys have a previous falling out?

    Hope you're able to enjoy your weekend.
  6. by   Mkue
    Originally posted by rebelwaclause
    Not to minimize your dilemma B_Matt, but to say it all seems like high school drama and a HUGE distraction from your goal of graduating school?

    I bet the drama queens (and kings) selected this situation as "monkey-of-the-week" and it will die in time. You don't have to stoop to anyone's level nor do you have to have your character analyzed by people who are unqualified to do so.

    Your posts always seem so spirited and on the up-and-up here. (I enjoy you!). Let that be a reminder to you when you are confronted with childish "stuff".

    Take care girlfriend!

    PS...If your professor has been doing this for awhile, he knows trends and personalities in students. If you've been on the level grade wise and otherwise - He''s probably not concerned with the ramblings of what looks like a snitch (your classmate). In fact, those who talk, yell and busy themselves too much are usually the ones trying to take the spotlight off themselves (in my opinion...of course!)

    "Silence is golden", and it seems like maybe your teacher is making a statement to the class that its time to get serious and back to work now.
    Rebel, you are probably right.

    Chances are he has seen this before and it's not enough to make an issue out of.
  7. by   Jennerizer
    Did you give her the answer during the exam? Or did you take the exam first & then let her know what was on the exam?
  8. by   renerian
    Seems like high school. I would be afraid continuing the altercation or issue may put your school in trouble. Any thoughts?


    renerian
  9. by   Beach_RN
    Well everyone.... thanks for the advice..... as to question #1 I gave the other student the answer during the exam..

    as to question #2..... My ex study partner is my ex study partner because of this incident

    As to overall..... I am going to take Rebel's advice and put all the Drama aside and just concentrate on getting through my last 2 classes and final!

    If the professor approaches me I will discuss the incident with him in general....I am not going to blow what I have been working so hard to reach!

    As far as my ex study partner I am not going to discuss anything with her ....... I was at the mall earlier today and I ran into her multiple times and she ignored me and continued to give me dirty looks..... WHATEVER!

    I also ran into another student....who told me my ex-study partner stayed and spoke to the professor crying after the whole melee occured!

    Again, I am going to class this Friday and act as if nothing happened and just concentrate on my lecture.... and pass this god forsaken class!

    Thanks to all who responded...... I appreciate all of you for your honest opinions!

    Brenda
  10. by   emily_mom
    Your ex sounds like a puke. I'm sure he sees right through her. I'm happy with your decision. No proof = no F

    Kristy
  11. by   rstewart
    "First of all, it's your word against mine." "I know this is manipulative and dishonest but you have to look out for yourself right now." "Giving one answer to one person is not cheating to me." "If he doesn't have proof right now, why offer it to him?" "No proof=no F "

    Elsewhere on this bulletin board is an active thread describing the public's high level of trust in the nursing profession. I wonder whether the profession will be held in the same high regard 10 years from now.
  12. by   natsfanrn
    Originally posted by nursing 101
    Maybe I'll be classified as a bad person for this one but for Christ sake people giving one answer to one person is not cheating to me. Maybe that person drew a blank on that ONE question and wanted a memory boost!
    Umm... giving one answer to one person on a test IS cheating -- just like making one mistake on one patient can kill a person (or at least lead to a malpractice suit). Don't mean to sound harsh here, but this is spelled out clearly in every school's honor code, as well as the point that observers of cheating are required to report it. More important, as future nurses it should be an fundamental part of your own morality. Off my soapbox, now I'll go hide
  13. by   Robin61970
    I wouldn't address it unless the Professor came to me, and how you handle it there is up to you. I have never taken an answer from someone else on an exam, but I did give someone else an answer. She is not going for Nursing.....at my school Dental hygeneist(sp?) have to take A&P I and II before getting into their school where they have to take a seperate A&P as well....I think that is ridiculous as do many others. I gave her one answer, but I would not have done it for a nursing student......guess I am funny that way.

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