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After many, many years (20!) of "thinking about it", I finally decided at age 45 to go back to school for nursing. My mom was a nurse for 50 years and even though I have two other bachelor's degrees,... Read More
Apr 15I am in the same boat. I have almost all my prerequisites knocked out. I retired from the army after 25 years of service. I may not be a nurse either; however, when you go back to school as a non-traditional student you bring a sense of experience, professionalism, and maturity with you. I am also a student you and I have been successful at careers before going to a SON . I do not believe in arguments that do not solve anything. But during my last career I was also exposed to high levels of stress and I have also witnessed some horrible situations. Keep your head up and do what is right
Apr 16Quote from Leader25A PRIVATE CONVERSATION at the nurses desk where visitors, families and other support staff were around? Want a private conversation, go to the nurses lounge and have at it.Do you think it was right to go to teacher and complain? You expect respect but you do not care about a private conversation between two adults,you say you get the venting part,do you really? You have not walked even a mile in their shoes,so please for everyone's sake walk away ,mind your patients and your business.
Apr 16Quote from Ruby VeeWith all due respect RubyVee, 5 years ago I was on this forum attempting to gain information about going back to school in nursing. I asked a few feeler questions about the profession and was absolutely bashed by you as being naïve for thinking that nursing would be a good career to go into.And aren't you a special kind of . . . something. Introducing yourself with a first post entitled "Unprofessional Nurse During Clinical" is not a good debut on a forum for nurses. But perhaps you enjoy being miserable, hence the extremely negative first post.
You mocked my age, my interest and my heartfelt questions regarding whether I should go back or not. In fact, at that time you called me a Pollyanna. Now I'm miserable because I expect professionalism from nurses? Ok, then. It took me 5 more years to go back to school, in part, because of you and your negativity towards students. I remember thinking if this is how nurses are, count me out. I remember you from then. So you bashing me now? No worries. Been there, done that. And I've found out not all nurses thrive on smashing students souls to itty bitty bits. I changed my user name, but I remember who's advice I respect, and who's I do not. I get that some students come on here complaining about ridiculous things (from your post below). I Get it. I am not doing that. I also did not confront the nurse nor ever said that I would. I thought she should have taken her complaint to somewhere less PUBLIC. How that turned into me being 'negative' is beyond me.
As far as expecting professionalism from the people that I work with and thinking nurses are better than what I experienced, I make absolutely no apologies. Not one. I've asked nurses who are friends, instructors, ex nurses, nurse managers, CNA's...all about this situation and they were horrified to know that this happened at the nurses desk. I am so happy to know that at least in my neck of the woods it is unacceptable behavior. I will continue with professionalism, both at work and here on this board. I am doing GREAT in school despite your insistence that I would not, and I love every minute of my clinical experiences. I will not behave like that nurse at the nurses desk and I promise, when I AM a nurse, I will not spend my time on a message board attempting to bring others down. I DO keep my head down and I do my work....all of it...in a timely manner and I expect absolutely no concessions OR compassion from anyone. I expect that if I do my job well, that's what matters. I do believe in treating others how I'd like to be treated though. And I will continue to do that. I am sorry that you have been so jaded by students that you cannot see when someone is asking an honest question and do that also. I want no enemies here so let's just assume when I ask a question I don't want advice from you and I won't comment on your posts either.
Apr 18Quote from JenbripsuI think in every profession there are chronic complainers. I also believe that there are people who chronically put others down to make themselves feel worthy.A PRIVATE CONVERSATION at the nurses desk where visitors, families and other support staff were around? Want a private conversation, go to the nurses lounge and have at it.
In all my years of being a nurse I found these people everywhere and in every department. As a young nurse I would just leave conversations that were participating in this kind of behavior. As teacher I made sure that the incoming nurses knew this kind of behaviour is NOT okay and encourage them to practice nursing their way. As a supervisor and manager I did not tolerate this type of unprofessionalism in the nurses.
However...to say that the nurses you heard are not good nurses just isn't true. It is difficult to explain to students that as they gain more experience they too may have days that seeking the comeradare of a co-worker is, at times, therapeutic. Nurses develop coping mechanisms to shield us from the cruel realities of the medical world and the seedier side of humanity. Sometime making something seem less "human" helps in dealing with the stark realities.
Try not to judge these nurses too harshly. While it might not be the best side of nursing it doesn't mean they are bad nurses. I encourage ALL questions/thoughts/criticisms of student nurses I feel that these should go to your professor/instructor and not to the management of the facility. It is increasingly more difficult to find clinical facilities and /programs/instructors/students are guests. I am glad you went to school. Comments from complete strangers really shouldn't define your career journey.
All the best.
Apr 19Quote from Esme12I didn't say nor think that they were 'bad nurses'. Somehow in the ensuing 9 pages of comments my original post and subsequent replies have been lost in translation. All I've ever said is that I thought this behavior was completely inappropriate at the nurses station. People have taken issue with that I said it was unprofessional. I believe it was. Some have taken issue with that I thought the language was inappropriate. It was....for the nurses station. That's ALL I've ever been trying to say.However...to say that the nurses you heard are not good nurses just isn't true. It is difficult to explain to students that as they gain more experience they too may have days that seeking the comeradare of a co-worker is, at times, therapeutic. Nurses develop coping mechanisms to shield us from the cruel realities of the medical world and the seedier side of humanity. Sometime making something seem less "human" helps in dealing with the stark realities.
I appreciate your insight into the situation. I did go to my instructor just to discuss in post conference. I just wanted to clarify that I didn't call these nurses bad nurses. I said I don't want to be a nurse like them, but that's different. That's just saying that I won't engage in that type of behavior at the nurses desk. I've clearly said I expect to vent as well. I just hope I'll choose somewhere more private to do so. That is all I've been trying to say but with each comment my original thoughts seem to get lost.
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