Might have to quit my job! Need advice

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Hello everyone, thanks in advance for listening its gonna be a long one. I have a BS in biology and planned on taking a few classes this summer, two online, and anatomy and physiology at HACC. Then in the fall I would be taking anatomy and physiology II as my only class, with the hopes of applying to accelerated BSN programs that would start in May '10. I currently work at Lancaster General Hospital as a patient access representative full time M-F from 930-6. I spoke to my boss last friday and told her that I will be taking a class and i wouldnt be able to come in until 2 on tues and thursdays ( class is 8-130), but i could still work my full days on mwf leaving me with 32 hours total. She blatantly said, i cannot accommodate that! So i said, well we have a bunch of part timers who stay when people are on vacation or what not, what if i got the coverage for those hours? She said, no, youre hired as a 1 FTE (40 hours) a week and if you consistently dont work those hours HR will catch on and ill get in trouble. I told her that she wouldnt because I came from a previous job in the hospital where I was hired as a .5 (20 hours) and worked almost 40 for an entire year! She still would not budge. So i said, what if I still worked my 40 hours by doing 10 hours shift on mwf and 5 hours on tues/thurs? She said no cause im still not working the hours I was hired for! My next suggestion was, what if i work 40 hours AND find people to cover for me, that should solve every issue. Again, she said no because I dont need to pay two people when i shouldnt have to. I said, well you pay people extra when others are on vacation or call in sick, so whats the difference? She said well theyre using PTB (paid time bank) and HR understands that I need to get coverage when people are off. Ughhhh... i didnt even know what else to say.

Her option to me was to switch my lab from tue/thus 11-130 to mon/wed from 8-1030 then work the 1130-8 shift ! I said, umm, that means i would be going to class and working mon-thurs from 8-8! I told her there was no way I was going to do that. Her next offer was switching to part time 330-8, which again I told her I did not want to because I need the money, I dont want to work til 8, and have NO reason to only work 20 hours a week. We left it at that.

Yesterday, she calls me into the office again and says that the 1230-430 part time position will probably be opening up, and asked if that would work better. I said yes thats a better fit doing 8-430 as opposed to 8-8 but i still would want more hours. She said I could probably get more hours because of people taking off and what not I would be able to work a little extra. Just when i thought things seemed to be finally resolved, I asked her if come august when my class is over if I could switch back to my regular hours. She said NO, these hours would be permanent! I was shocked.. didnt even know what to say.

What has me so frustrated is the fact that my class is SEVEN weeks, SEVEN! We have people who CALL OFF more hours in one week than I would need for the whole summer class! Just last week alone we had one woman out all week and another who called off three days. Right there are the hours I would need to do something constructive, and shes not gonna give it to me? Also im telling her two months in advance so she can find coverage, not just doing it the last minute and leaving the office short staffed. Shes giving me a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

I understand how me missing 8 hours a week for 7 weeks can be a big deal but in august I would only need to miss 3 hours a week. I told her this, that my class is from 8-1030 wed and fri so i could work 3 full days then come in 11-6, which is 37 hours. She said NO again that its still not 40 hours!! Basically if I take the part time 1230-430 those would be my hours period. I could deal with the part time for the 7 week summer course which would give me more time to study, but i CANT just work part-time indefinitely. I told her that im not guaranteed to get into a program and if i dont, well then ill be available to work full time from dec until i apply for the next cycle. She still didnt care. And whats funny to me is, she cant afford for me to not work 8 hours or even 3 hours a week, BUT she can afford to cut me to 20 and be part time! How does that make any sense? And you need to understand our job, she cant just hire someone a day later and have them come in and start working. It would take at least a MONTH just to get a person hired if they were already employed at LGH and way longer than that if they were from the outside. More importantly, the training for our job is around 8 weeks. So even if she did get someone internal to work there after 4 weeks, they STILL wouldnt be doing the job and helping us until 2 months later! Again, i think me missing a total of 56 hours and having someone fill in makes a WHOLE lot more sense than trying to hire someone else because they wont be effective until 3 months later, and by then I could be working 37 hours a week!

Let me add that Im the best worker in the office, by far. I even told her that while i was sitting there coming up with a million ideas for her to let me do this. I said, honestly I could only work 10 hours week and i would still do more than everybody else here. For the first time, she said YES youre right! She agreed with me and said, you are the best worker I have and when it comes time for raises you'll get a good one and they wont get squat!!! Thats nice and all, but i would rather have my regular hours back and have her work with me on this than get a 20 cent raise.

Im stuck , I dont know what to do. I could take the part time hours and HOPE that in those 7 weeks she hasnt hired someone else so I could ask for full time back, but then she still wont let me just work 37. I really dont want to work just part time when I dont have to, and if thats her only option to me, what do i do? I could look for other jobs in the hospital but are they gonna want to hire me from the start when they KNOW im taking classes and plan to be in school by May '10. I could always work outside of the hospital, but as we all know, the economy isnt so good and i cant afford to waste months NOT having a job at all. I dont know what to do. Any advice you could give would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for reading.

LeeAnn

I totally agree that I can suck it up and do it for seven weeks. I am willing to change my schedule so I can take these classes, but I DONT want to change my schedule when I dont have to and thats what shes asking me to do. I cant just do the 8-1030 class 1130-8 work for seven weeks then take my old hours back once the class is over. IF I get into the programs Im applying to they would start middle/end of may. Thus, Id be changing my hours for an entire year almost when all I needed was 50 hours off. I think thats a big change when it doesnt need to be. Also, I wouldnt mind if my hours were slightly different but 1130-8 is a horrible shift at my job, your the only person here after 6, so everything that needs done is on you. And as I said before, there are multiple taking two week straight vacations for the beach throughout the summer, plus others for a week, and not to mention all the call offs. I just dont understand why they cant let me have 50 hours for school in advance but other ppl can for vacation...

Ill keep updating on the situation, if anything else comes up or I make a decision.

Hello :specs:

I just want to be honest it does sound like your boss is being a complete jerk, but on the other hand it did seem as though she was trying to help you. I am not sure what level you are on as far as your pre-requisits, but most nursing students end up quiting their job and going part-time. I understand it is only for a limited amount of time u need, but many employers are very weary of hiring students for this exact reason. Being a nursing student makes the situation even more difficult. There is so much time and energy that has to be put towards successfully completling each class. There is so much competetion out here for entrance into the program. It all depends on how serious you are. My recommendation would be for you to go part-time and remain part-time because this will definitely happen again. This way you will have a secure job and be able to take more classes and have freedom to schedule around your job and you can pick up extra hours around your break. I don't find that too bad but I don't know your financial situation. Most nursing students work part-time or work at a job that allows them to work and study alot (flexibility). I worked as a substitute teacher while I was taking my pre-requisits and was allowed to make my own schedule and study @ work. I never would have aced all of my classes working a 9-5 and having a 6 year old @ home. My program starts May 18th my last day is next friday. I could work up until the program starts, but that would not benifit the company to keep me that long and sometimes you have to keep the company in mind especially if you want to leave on a positive note.

For future reference I would not be too eager to tell employers of your educational advancements. Many people are envious of students and people bettering themselves. Especially with the way the economy is and how they are glorifying and praising the field of nursing. I don't know your bosses background but your situation is in her hands and she may be using that for the wrong reasons which is very unfortunate. If I were you in the future I would just use those dates I need off for school as vacation time it is none of their business why you are taking the time off you have it available. I think you just gave TMI. After reading this site I think my lips will remain sealed and I am gonna watch many things I spill to my employer and employees even after I am a nurse and in the hospital. You would think getting an education and advancing your skills would be praised but I see alot of persecution of students especially nursing students. :madface:

Best of Luck & GOD BLESS :heartbeat

I'll just start by saying I'm going to be harsh. You are calling your boss unreasonable. It's not your boss that is unreasonable, it is you. Your boss has offered you many choices in order to help you attend school. It is you that has to make the choice whether to work it or not. Having been a supervisor/manager, I can tell you I experience scheduling problems many times with employees that were in school. I did what I could to work the schedule out to help them, but in the end I still had a schedule to make, I still had shifts that needed to be covered and sometimes that meant I had to terminate an employee(who was unwilling to change their normal hours) or transfer them to another department that could work around their schedule. I didn't want to do it, but I had a department to run.

Working 8-8 may not be ideal, but it will allow you to go to school and still get your hours that you need. I, like many nurses on this board, worked while in nursing school. I worked 12 hour night shifts every Fri, Sat, and Sun while I was in school. I got off work Mon morning and headed straight to class. I had class all day Mon-Thurs and then spent Fri before work doing homework and careplans. Did I like the hours I worked? No. Did I have a horrible job where everything that needed to be done fell on me? Yes. I am going to let you in on a big secret, when you become a nurse you might possibly find yourself working hours that you don't like, in jobs that are horrible, and being blamed for everything that is going wrong on your unit.

god-is-love,

I have a previous BS in Biology/chemistry so the classes I need to take for the ABSN programs are minimal. I need, soc, psych, AnP I and II. The soc and psych im taking online so the only classes I acutally need to go to the campus for would be AnP I and II. I would have to agree with you about the school situation. If I hadnt told her it was for school, im sure I could have used vacation time and it would have been ok, because like i said everyone in the office has off for a least a week this summer and a few people have two weeks straight.

As for people saying she is trying to help me and gave me SO many options its not true. She did offer the 1130-8 so I could go to class and still work full time, but the NEXT day she took it back and said someone else is getting those hours so my only option would be to take theirs which is 1230-430. I emailed her yesterday because she told me she wants a decision by tomorrow (friday), and I said, so my only option is the 1230-430 part time. She said yes. I emailed my coworker who is switching her hours from the 1230-430 to the 330-8. She replied and said that our boss gave her the 'run around' too and told me the reason shes switching is because she wants to go to LPN school, then she said, but dont tell anyone ok? So im not sure if our boss knows why shes switching but it doesnt seem to me that she does.

Im probably going to take the 1230-430, because I dont have a choice, and Ill enjoy the minimal hours while im taking 3 classes during the summer. Maybe Ill get lucky and they wont have hired anybody for my hours by the time those 7 weeks are up and I can take my full time shift back come august and just use vacation time for the 3 hours I would need off each week. If not, I guess I could always get another part time job in the morning 8-12. Guess we'll just have to see.

hi, :D

i am happy that u found some way of coping with this situation just know that u will only come out stronger. use being part-time to your adavntage and emerse yourself into your studies. set yourself apart do some volunteering in your free-time. at the point in nursing u are in u guys are somewhat competators so your goal is to do whatever it takes to stand out and get the slot in the program b4 someone else does. your classmates are applying to the same program you are. those that sacrifice generally are the ones that get admitted and have no problem completing the program. people that don't sacrifice or just make nursing secondary to their job are the ones that have to repeat courses or have a difficult time being admitted. i am speaking from experience and the people surrounding my circle. every1's situation is different, but in my opinion u will be more successful being part-time. your job seems like enough stress with that difficult boss of yours. if possible look for another job that would embrace your educational advancements or even a hospital. your co-worker was smart when she kept quiet so her journey in nursing will probably b easier bc she is able to work full-time, but don't fret bc your situation is not all that bad. eventually they will probably catch on and not allow anyone to take vacations when they feel it is school related. in the meantime u already have your part-time position secure so u won't have to worry about that day. move forward from here don't move back your journey into nursing is just beginning.

good luck & god bless :heartbeat

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