Mandatory Practice NCLEX outrage!!!!!!!

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Nurse2bSandy

355 Posts

Our school uses the ATI testing system and every major class has an exam that must be passed in order to pass the class... no matter what your overall class grade is. Many people really scream about this, but I figure it's just a hoop we have to jump through.

The ATI is supposed to closely mimic NCLEX and pass rates are similar. I did fine... hope it's true of NCLEX!! I have a community health and pharm ATI left... but the RN Comp is over and that's the one that counts for getting out. May 15th I'm a pinned nurse!

Good luck All!

daisywill

25 Posts

We have to take the RN Assessment from ERI in 4th semester. We get two chances to pass or you fail the entire semester. The same week we took it we had to take 2 CAPS, also from ERI, the last test of the semester and our final! It was horrible! Although it is very stressful taking it, I do feel more confident about taking the NCLEX now that I passed the RN Assessment. It just doesn't seem fair to have an entire semester ride on 1 test.

When they implemented this test as a requirement 1 year ago (half way through my program) the school had us all sign a document stating we were aware of the change and accepted it. Did you sign anything?

No we did not sign anything. But I was not aware of a HESI test and that other nursing programs have done similar or the same thing. I have never heard of schools doing that until now. But I guess I just have to study hard. I was thinking of studying the NCLEX this summer before my senior year. I still think that its not fair, but life isnt. Can anyone recommend a good NCLEX study book. Thanks. :)

jenrninmi, MSN, RN

1,975 Posts

Specializes in L&D.
No we did not sign anything. But I was not aware of a HESI test and that other nursing programs have done similar or the same thing. I have never heard of schools doing that until now. But I guess I just have to study hard. I was thinking of studying the NCLEX this summer before my senior year. I still think that its not fair, but life isnt. Can anyone recommend a good NCLEX study book. Thanks. :)

A lot of us use Saunders.

We also had to take two exams this semester called RNCAT.

daisywill

25 Posts

A lot of us use Saunders.

We also had to take two exams this semester called RNCAT.

My professor today recommended to use Saunders and I went right to our college store and purchased it. It looks like a good book. I think its way better than Mosbys. I cant wait to use it. Thanks. Mosby has some good things but the majority of it sucks.

MikeyBSN

439 Posts

Specializes in ED.

Most school can and do require students to take and pass some kind of test before letting them take the NCLEX. The students are representing the school. I'm not sure if it's "right" but not letting students sit for then NCLEX if they don't pass the ERI HESSE ect. makes the school look better because then those students won't take and fail the NCLEX. This makes the school look better; it's all politics. I don't see why it matters though, if you don't pass the pre-test I don't know why you would bother to pay money sit for the NCLEX if you're not going to pass.

My professor today recommended to use Saunders and I went right to our college store and purchased it. It looks like a good book. I think its way better than Mosbys. I cant wait to use it. Thanks. Mosby has some good things but the majority of it sucks.

Ronold

48 Posts

My school has the ATI testing that we must pass or else we are kicked out of the program. In our last semster we have to take the HESI test. If we fail you have to take the summer refresher course before you take the NCLEX. My school has a 98% first time pass rate.

Specializes in PCU, Critical Care, Observation.

It sounds to me like those schools that have such strict requirements to passing an nclex type test in order to graduate are those schools that do not usually have a good pass rate on the nclex. Here in Florida, if a school has 2 graduation classes with an nclex pass rate below 75%, they risk losing their accreditation. Therefore, they feel that if one can successfully pass their exam that is similar to the nclex, there is a good chance that you will also pass the nclex the first time around. They are just covering themselves from losing accreditation - because it is a lot of work to get reaccredited & if you graduate from a school that is not accredited, some hospitals will not even hire you. So it is in your best interest that your school remain accredited.

Jen

crb613, BSN, RN

1,632 Posts

Specializes in Med Surg/Tele/ER.

At my school we are required to take the HESI at the end of each nursing class. A set percentage of this is part of your grade. If you make a B in the class but score low on the HESI, you loose your B & have to remediate. In our last semester if we do not pass the HESI we do not graduate. I think part of this is to prepare students & part to keep their pass/fail rate at 100%. I found out I knew alot more than I thought I did. I have used nclex books as an extra study guide since I started school & they really help. I think Saunders is a really good one. Good Luck to you. :p

sweetpepper

9 Posts

At my school the HESI is required at the end of the second and fourth semesters, however your grade on this test is not used to determine whether you are allowed to remain in nursing school or not. We take the test and from the results of this test the instructors can see what areas students are weak in and what areas are being taught well. It's used as a tool to help students prepare for the NCLEX. If you take the HESI and do poorly, you know to step up your studying and preperation for NCLEX. I understand though about how NSG schools can change things just to increase their pass rate. I understand it's to help protect their accredidation, however it's frustrating as a student to be working so very hard and have these things change on you. One thing that particularly gets under my skin is when rather than examining the curriculum or how the material is taught, they assume it's a student problem and rail on students. All in all, nursing school is tough no matter where you are or what situation you're in.

shortsteph12

79 Posts

We are required to take the NLN test, but right now it is not a requirment to pass for graduation. The group that is a year behind me, they will be required to take the test in order to graduate. The requirment is a 75% or higher. Our school has a very high pass rate on the NCLEX right now and I hope that continues...

grentea

221 Posts

i found out AFTER i entered my nursing program that i have to get a 90% or above on my HESI to graduate. the sad part is my school is expensive and i have to pass it on the first try. if someone "fails" they have to wait a semester and take it over it again and pay for the class that preps for the nclex. i think i can do it but i never even imagined that my nursing school had something like this going in on when i was applying to it. i think i would have gone somewhere else if i knew, but i'm in it pretty far now, so i'm just going to have to do it! my school really wants that 100% pass rate but i don't see how that helps me out.

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