Jealous much? - page 4

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So after every exam, everyone starts the whole "how did you do?" I have gotten three A's and a B so far. Today after my third A, we did the whole routine of asking how you did. So pretty much everyone knows I got good grades.... Read More


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    Quote from LadyFree28
    If that was the case, then I should wait in the middle of the line with my 2.8 while the cum lade group gets to go first??? LOL...um, no, grades don't matter. Ask those who have those accolades and is STILL looking for work while O get a pay check in two weeks...
    Yes, grades don't matter. That was not the point being made. The point being made was that these are the same people you will be competing against for jobs (with your resume, interview skills, and education/job history). So, why worry about being best buds? Neither I, nor the original person who mentioned it, talked about our grades.
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    Quote from LadyFree28

    If that was the case, then I should wait in the middle of the line with my 2.8 while the cum lade group gets to go first??? LOL...um, no, grades don't matter. Ask those who have those accolades and is STILL looking for work while O get a pay check in two weeks...
    Depends on who you ask. There isn't a GN internship around that will take a student with less than a 3.0, and it's competitive from that point forward.
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    Quote from Stephalump

    Depends on who you ask. There isn't a GN internship around that will take a student with less than a 3.0, and it's competitive from that point forward.
    I still beg to differ in regards to that as well. There are plenty of new grads who have that GPA and yet can't get a job. Internship does not equal job. It's about presentation, interview, and how the organization perceives you to be a good fit. And that's how I got my job. Most places will allow people in after 6 months into a residency program who don't have the minimum GPA if you are lucky to get that first job, and I found this out when I sought out a nurse recruiter at a Magnet Hospital during a career fair. Her tips landed me a job with another Magnet Hospital that does not have a GPA requirement for their nurse residency. I speaking on experience...The GPA doesn't matter if you can not be competent in terms of delivering nursing care, or present yourself where they feel as though a candidate can cope with being a nurse in the unit or the organization...no one will ever compete with that...either you are competent or competent enough to deliver nursing care. That's what counts, all day long.
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    Quote from rubato

    Yes, grades don't matter. That was not the point being made. The point being made was that these are the same people you will be competing against for jobs (with your resume, interview skills, and education/job history). So, why worry about being best buds? Neither I, nor the original person who mentioned it, talked about our grades.
    I am aware you are not the OP...read what my first response was...not necessarily going to be competing for skills, education...job history/significant history perhaps...it turns into "how much money YOU make???" Rather than the competition...I've had that experience as much as I had with the "what grade" ballyhoo...some people need the feel of "worth" instead of or in addition to the investment.

    I never felt my classmates were competition. The core people that were in my class, we didn't feel compelled to compete against each other. If anything, our program emphasized that each of us were our colleagues, and giving each other a level of respect was paramount if we were to become safe, competent nurses. Another campus that had a class had that atmosphere, though. I'm glad I did not go there. Maybe it's my philosophy of karma...I personally think the more you focus on "completion" in a career where you are a part of a team, whether you are teaming up with a family, your unit, the multidisciplinary team, you're asking for trouble. Those type of attitudes contribute to med errors, ethical mistakes, near misses, etc...But that's just what I've seen over the 12 years in being in health care.

    The less "compete" attitudes against others and more of a "motivate" attitude goes a long way. I will always believe that nursing is similar to the military (my classmate would agree...he was a veteran in the Iraq War)...you are in the trenches when you are doing this program, and when you are out there on the floors and in the communities...It serves people well to have a "team" approach...for those who want to compete, the best thing to do is assist them in maneuvering to compete against themselves, lol...by some of the comments, there may be some successful maneuvering!
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    Apparently, you aren't understanding what I am getting at. That's fine.
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    "If that was the case, then I should wait in the middle of the line with my 2.8 while the cum lade group gets to go first??? LOL...um, no, grades don't matter. Ask those who have those accolades and is STILL looking for work while O get a pay check in two weeks... "



    Gotta say I agree. Once you have your license, it is about experience and intangibles. They don't ask after your nursing school grades.

    I never ask anyone how they did. That is their business. If I'm asked "how did you do" I generally reply either "I did OK" or "I didn't do as well as I'd hoped to". Then I get pressed for a number. I've found if I don't answer, I get more razzing about being a know it all than if I just answer. Then there is the gal who sits in front of me and just turns around and grabs my graded paper off my desk. Yes, I've learned to turn it over and lean my elbows on it now!
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    Although I do shake my head internally when I hear other students say "C's get degrees" after talking about their wild weekend. They failed the midterm/test/quiz, but are allowed to remediate and improve to a minimum passing grade. A C may get you a diploma, but will you be prepared to pass the NCLEX, is what I'm thinking. But it doesn't really effect me, so I don't worry about it much
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    Quote from LadyFree28

    I still beg to differ in regards to that as well. There are plenty of new grads who have that GPA and yet can't get a job. Internship does not equal job. It's about presentation, interview, and how the organization perceives you to be a good fit. And that's how I got my job. Most places will allow people in after 6 months into a residency program who don't have the minimum GPA if you are lucky to get that first job, and I found this out when I sought out a nurse recruiter at a Magnet Hospital during a career fair. Her tips landed me a job with another Magnet Hospital that does not have a GPA requirement for their nurse residency. I speaking on experience...The GPA doesn't matter if you can not be competent in terms of delivering nursing care, or present yourself where they feel as though a candidate can cope with being a nurse in the unit or the organization...no one will ever compete with that...either you are competent or competent enough to deliver nursing care. That's what counts, all day long.
    For my intents and purposes, internship does equal job. Our med center has realized it's cheaper and easier to hire and train all their new grads at once, so I GN residencies are turning into the only way to get a job in that area. Two shots. Once in Jan and once in June. Based on GPA and HESI scores.

    We also have a competitive entry to our linked BSN program. Limited spots and, once again, must have a 3.0 minimum.

    Then of course, there's the competition of graduate school.

    I'm glad there are ways around the typical GPA/exit score stuff, because I don't believe grades necessarily reflect the ability of the student. And I agree, competitiveness between students doesn't really serve any purpose. It isn't a basketball...I don't get to go on the defensive when classmates are testing to try to stop them from scoring points. A united class is much healthier.

    But I think passing on this C=RN, grades don't matter attitude is harmful. It's nice that some people can charm/network their way through their career, but not everyone can, and people out there do pay real consequences for poor grades. Not even being considered at hospitals they dream of working at, not being able to pass the NCLEX, not getting into grad school, etc.

    We should be encouraging people to do their absolute best and learn as much as they can. If their best is As, they won't regret it. If their best is Cs, they shouldn't regret it.
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    Quote from rubato
    Apparently, you aren't understanding what I am getting at. That's fine.
    No offense, I do understand...I'm just on a whole other point and perspective, as well as experience. I hope you understand where I'm coming from, from years removed of going to nursing school as a PN and RN...same culture happens and evolves into something else when you are on the healthcare team. Talking about maturity perspective as well when talking about this subject, not directed at you, but the whole thread. Hope that clears it up.
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    Quote from DawnJ
    "If that was the case, then I should wait in the middle of the line with my 2.8 while the cum lade group gets to go first??? LOL...um, no, grades don't matter. Ask those who have those accolades and is STILL looking for work while O get a pay check in two weeks... "

    Gotta say I agree. Once you have your license, it is about experience and intangibles. They don't ask after your nursing school grades.

    I never ask anyone how they did. That is their business. If I'm asked "how did you do" I generally reply either "I did OK" or "I didn't do as well as I'd hoped to". Then I get pressed for a number. I've found if I don't answer, I get more razzing about being a know it all than if I just answer. Then there is the gal who sits in front of me and just turns around and grabs my graded paper off my desk. Yes, I've learned to turn it over and lean my elbows on it now!
    ^Thanks Dawn for understanding my perspective

    The issue for nursing students, in my opinion is the "competitiveness" in getting to that goal, sometimes does not turn off...then you see posts on people who do well in nursing school that do not get a job...if it were up to a recruiter, most of the time, they'll go for the person with the OK GPA, experience in the hospital, or interviews well with no experience than the cum lade that doesn't interview well, even though they think they "nailed it" because of their past success in nursing school. I see it on the threads all the time.

    I had a high GPA during the end of my junior year and was selected to get an internship, but turned it down...why? Because I knew that although that would've been nice to get that internship, I was more focused on completing my program and start "green", despite my previous experience; I still was coming out of school in a new role. That didn't stop me from getting a job, and it won't for anyone who thinks it would for their own grades-just giving out pearls of wisdom to think about at the sake of hijacking the thread, lol


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