Is it selfishness?

  1. I am just so burned! I just got off a call with my cousin in Virginia. I told her about starting school Monday and she told me about the program she was in.
    The program only took 45 people, and there is no waiting list. The director said over 200 people applied at the interview and because the seats were so limited, some very qualified individuals may not get in. Well, two weeks into the program a group of four girls started saying they were too good to be "just LPNs". One of the young ladies supposedly dropped out a week later and her friends followed within the following two weeks.

    Now what burns me is that these individuals knew they were applying to an LPN program. They went to the Practical Nursing Academy to submit their apps and to interview. Being "just an LPN" must have been a conscious decision as some point.

    Everyone has their own opinions about what level of nursing they want to go into. That is not the current issue. The issue is that there was no way to replace those four slots and someone who really wanted a slot and would have fully appreciated it missed out. :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire

    Is this not completely selfish or is it just me?
    Last edit by HisTreasure on Jun 20, '04
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  2. 19 Comments

  3. by   All_Smiles_RN
    That sounds completely selfish to me too. There were plenty of people who would have done anything for those seats. What a shame....
    ...Jennifer...
  4. by   IamRN
    No. Not just you! :angryfire
  5. by   RNIAM
    I applied at both an ASN and an LPN school when I was first started applying. My thought was that if I couldn't get into an ASN school then I would do the LPN program and then bridge to an RN program. I got into both schools and promplty informed the LPN school that I would not be taking the slot. It was filled by someone else from what I heard. Many students apply to more than one school when they first get out of high school or when they start their educational persuit and they get accepted to more than one school. Are you saying that is not appropriate or was it that you didn't care for their attitude about it?

    If it was the attitude then I completely agree with what you said. Sorry I was a might long winded.
  6. by   Energizer Bunny
    I agree with you, OP. If they knew what they were going to do in the first place, then why would they take up a spot somewhere else? Did the two programs start at the same time? Or were they starting one waiting to hear from another? It still seems selfish to me.
  7. by   cherokeesummer
    I agree their attitude was very crass and it was highly unprofessional to react that way.

    If all they wanted was to be an RN then they should have only applied to RN schools or if they decided to bridge, they could have said simply, I got accepted into an RN school which would better serve my needs at this time, however I am thankful for the LPN opportunitity. That way they would have left on a professional note. What a shame.
  8. by   HisTreasure
    Quote from RNIAM
    I applied at both an ASN and an LPN school when I was first started applying. My thought was that if I couldn't get into an ASN school then I would do the LPN program and then bridge to an RN program. I got into both schools and promplty informed the LPN school that I would not be taking the slot. It was filled by someone else from what I heard. Many students apply to more than one school when they first get out of high school or when they start their educational persuit and they get accepted to more than one school. Are you saying that is not appropriate or was it that you didn't care for their attitude about it?

    If it was the attitude then I completely agree with what you said. Sorry I was a might long winded.
    I don't think there is anything wrong with applying to both. I do think it would be selfish to accept a slot in LPN program, start the program, then drop out when you hear from another program...especially if the slot that was given to you can't be filled. On the other hand, if the slot can be filled, then nothing is wrong with that. It's also how you handle yourself during the process of dropping one and starting the other. I don't know if these ladies all got accepted to another program or not, but it seems unlikely. It's all about the attitude, baby!
  9. by   studentnurse74
    Maybe it took her a while to realize that being any type of nurse is not a glorious job. Honorable, but we all have to get in the dirty stuff. She should've found out before applying what all was involved, and yes, she was selfish. Plenty of people would love to have that chance.

    I also think it's a bad move on the school's part not to have any alternate wait list.
  10. by   RedSox33RN
    It is terrible that they now have those empty seats that they can't fill. I wish there was some kind of "blacklist" that other school would know what these people have done, so they can think long and hard before they consider them for their program. There are a million GOOD reasons to drop out if necessary, but not wanting to be "just" an LPN is not one of them.

    I was also going to apply to an LPN program and a Surgical Tech program if I was not accepted to nursing school. As it was, I was accepted into two RN programs, and after 10 days or so, I made the decision which one I would attend and informed the other school. That was in March, even though classes started in September. I can't image not letting them know so the spot could go to someone else right away. Spots are too hard to come by, and people work to darn hard for them, to let them be filled by a "hmmmm.....this looks kinda interesting. Let's see if I like it" person.
  11. by   suzanne4
    Quote from RNIAM
    I applied at both an ASN and an LPN school when I was first started applying. My thought was that if I couldn't get into an ASN school then I would do the LPN program and then bridge to an RN program. I got into both schools and promplty informed the LPN school that I would not be taking the slot. It was filled by someone else from what I heard. Many students apply to more than one school when they first get out of high school or when they start their educational persuit and they get accepted to more than one school. Are you saying that is not appropriate or was it that you didn't care for their attitude about it?

    If it was the attitude then I completely agree with what you said. Sorry I was a might long winded.
    From what I am reading the problem is not that they applied to several programs or anyhting like that. But that they actually accepted a slot for that program and then dropped after the first two weeks, thereby denying anyone else a place.
  12. by   RNIAM
    Good point.
  13. by   ZootRN
    Usually schools keep few alternative candidates in case somebody selected to the program will turn down the slot. I'm surprised this is not the case.
  14. by   alexillytom
    Definitely not selfishness. I recently had a blow-up with my friend over this same thing.
    She did the same thing and had the same attitude. She dropped out after it was too late
    to call up any alternates. She just thought it was too much for her. I told her that if she
    had taken the time to go to an information session and/or speak to another LPN then she
    would have known what she was getting into. Then she could have decided whether to
    attend or not. I went on to explain how her choices and attitude hindered someone else from attaining their goals. She thought I was overreacting.

    Before I started my prereqs for my ASN, I tried to get into all of the neighboring LPN schools. The waiting lists were at minimum, two years. I tried to personalize it for her by
    telling her that she took the slot that I desperately wanted, and flushed it down the toilet.

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