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- Apr 11, '12 by zorabanksOP this is your learning experience and you are in charge of it. You ask as many questions you need in order to learn! That nurse was out of line yelling at you! That is one of the many problems among nurses. If that nurse cant handle having a student, then may she should refuse! I would advise being mindful of when you ask questions not the number. God Bless!
- Apr 11, '12 by EllieBean13Thank you everyone for your kind words as well as your advice. I have definitely taken it to heart. A little update on the situation- the patient's 02 sat continued to trend down, he suffered a fall, and he ended up being transferred to the ICU that evening. I am not sure what happened to him, but I worked with the same nurse the following clinical day and she told me he was moved. Everything went much better the second clinical day I worked with her. I was very conscientious of WHEN I asked my questions, and HOW they were phrased.
Thank you again!
- Apr 12, '12 by sandyfeetQuote from Not_A_Hat_PersonThis is why when I am charting an abnormal vital, I will frequently make a comment that says "RN notified" to go along with it. Advice passed down to me. Trust your gut!When I was a student, I had a patient whose RR and O2 sat worried me. I told the nurse, who said "Yeah, she's been doing that." She wasn't worried, so I charted the vitals and continued with my care. When the doc saw the charted vitals, 10 minutes later, he was very, very concerned. The patient ended up in the ICU, the nurse yelled at me about not telling her (I'd told her 10 minutes earlier), and my clinical instructor wrote me up.
- Apr 13, '12 by tcvnurseToo many questions? I don't know about that. I'd much rather have students/new orientees asking me questions all day than just nodding at random intervals. If they are asking questions I can figure out their thought processes, and sometimes help them to the most important bits.
I don't agree with yelling at students/newbies ever. (unless they have nearly killed someone!)
It may be an idea to get this nurse aside and tell her --in a calm voice--I appreciate where you're coming from, but I don't appreciate you yelling at me in front of people.
Or not. Good luck.
- Apr 13, '12 by MeriwhenI wouldn't so much limit yourself to three questions a day, as I would rethink what your questions are and when to ask them. Yes, it's far better to ask questions than not, but perhaps some of your questions could easily be answered on your own, whether you look the info up or use common sense. If you've already asked the question before, write down the answer when you ask again because you shouldn't be asking her the same questions repeatedly.
Also, keep in mind where and when you're asking questions. In front of a patient: only if you're asking how to do a procedure, but definitely none about the care she's giving him. When she's in the middle of something important: no. Break time: Maybe good, maybe not. If she asks if you have any questions: GREAT time to ask them! Unless the question is a life-or-death matter, if you're not sure if it's a good time to ask, preface it with "Can I ask you a question?"
Sorry you got yelled at. Even if you were hounding her with questions (not saying you were because I wasn't there to see for myself), that is no excuse for her to yell at you.
Hang in there.
- Apr 14, '12 by butterfly134where is the respect
nobody should treat anyone with such disrespect as to yell at them in front of others, belittling that person and hurting their feelings. Everybody receives criticism and that criticism should be constructive. Most students will get a telling off at some stage but it should not be infront of everyone. It isn't professional. Everyone should treat others how they would like to be treated!
I remember having a preceptor who consistently constructively criticised me however she also consistenly praised me as I improved and praised my attributes. She explained everything as we went along and I had no questions to ask. Any questions I did happen to have, she answered enthusiastically. Not only did i have the utmost respect for this nurse, I strive to be just as good as her!
Asking questions is essential and you know what, even if a student does sometimes ask a ''silly'' question, so what? we are there to learn and at least we are showing an interest. I'd keep asking questions ( so long as you try to keep them relevant), because if you didn't ask, she might start giving out!
Best of luck, hopefully you will get a more receptive preceptor in future!!
- Apr 14, '12 by pghnurse527That was extremely unprofessional and inappropriate of the RN to yell at you like that. I agree with whoever said she should be reported, at least to your instructor so they do not give another student to her.
I want to say good job for being a patient advocate; you thought something was wrong and you made sure it was heard. However, sats in the high 80s are rarely concerning. The nurse should have simply said to you 'the sa02 is acceptable for this patient, if it drops below X number we will start getting concerned'. As others have said, the distended abdomen was expected for the type of surgery he had. Sometimes as students we jump straight to 'I learned this was bad!' rather than stepping back and looking at the entire patient.
My take away for you for clinical would be to familiarize yourself with each of your patients' baselines. This is critical to do as a nurse because all patients do not necessarily have a BP of 120/80 or a heart rate of 60-100. If your patient's HR is normally in the 50s and shoots to the high 90s that is concerning. If you weren't aware that their baseline was 50 and saw the 90s you might assume it was WNL.
- Apr 14, '12 by 2bnursebetQuote from EllieBean13Asking questions shows that you are curious about the profession, which is a good thing! In my opinion, if you really care about nursing and becoming an excellent nurse, you have to ask questions.... So I don't think you should limit your questions, just choose a good time to ask them.As a student, I am still learning my boundaries. I got yelled at (I mean REALLY yelled at, in front of about 5 other staff members no less) by the nurse I was working with yesterday at my hospital. Myself, red faced and wanting to hide in a hole for a week, stood there and listened to my nurse tell me I ask too many questions. And you know what? She is right. I think I will allow myself mental "question coupons", three per clinical day. Unless something is REALLY pressing, of course. An embarrassing lesson learned- but very appreciated.
It's also part of the nurse's scope to mentor students, so this incident is very disappointing... (and sadly more common than it should be!)
- Apr 14, '12 by snazzy-jazzyQuote from sandyfeetAnd thankyou for passing it down to us. I have also been in that situation over a temp, even when we were turning the Pt I mentioned again how he even felt hot with that temp and she said 'oh yeah its these pressure mattresses, they don't let the air flow' then when she was charting a procedure he had done and included his vitals, she flew at me over the temp and said I never told her...This is why when I am charting an abnormal vital, I will frequently make a comment that says "RN notified" to go along with it. Advice passed down to me. Trust your gut!
- Apr 16, '12 by HM-8404I am not a nurse, a prospective nursing student. In my experience as a Navy Corpsman I have noticed one thing, women tend to yell at or berate another woman much quicker than men will do that to another man. Perhaps the reason is most women will take it and just complain to others later, where if a man did it to another man there is a chance he will get hit in the mouth. I have been told women are the worst coworkers another woman can have.