I just don't think this is for me

  1. My day today started out nerve wrecking. I was so scared to see my final exam grade. When i went to go see it I got an 82 and the avg was a 72.8. Ok an 82 is nothing to boast about in nursing school.This is for health assessment by the way. So my average for the class came out to be a 78. I needed an average of 77 for all four of my exams to pass the class aside from the average, Is this how it works for you guys? Well my test avg came out to a 76, due to my second exam being my lowest score. This was the time when my professor told me I was kicked out of the program by mistake. That threw into the depression mode and I really wasn't able to focus. My return demo, abs, write ups, papers, all that good stuff were As and Bs. I ask my Ass. Dean, if she can take my other work into consideration, before I can even mention all the good grades I've gotten, she didn't even let me finish. She said, " you need a 77." She also, said that I should talk to my advisor and see what classes I should take next semester. I really wanted to cuss her ass out, but I didn't it. Even my health assessment prof. asked if she was sympathetic. I am not the only one who's had a bad experience with the Dean and the Ass.Dean. I remember one time the Dean of nursing told me that maybe I should take a semster off, because there was not any more seats for a patho course, eventhough, I had passing grades. TAKING THIS CLASS OVER WOULD HOLD ME BACK TWO SEMESTERS!!!!! No thanks to their new curriculum, that health assessment and comminty based nursing is taken first year of jr.1 and clinicals/therapeutics the second. I have so many people on my back waiting for me to graduate. I don't have people in my family who can understand the crazziness of nursing school, they just make the assumptions that if you can't do it, then you must not be smart. What else is there for me to take next sem. I found out so many students who have a 76 and the Dean would not sympathize...and she's a nurse. And when she was a nurse, they didn't have 77 as the baseline of passing. I just don't know what I should do. I'm 22, I just feel like this nursing thing is really unmotivating. I found out this semester that if I try hard enough I can make it. But seeing how SXU's adm. is a pair of well paid, selfish inconsiderate hypocrates I don't know where to go. Sorry for the gram.errors.
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  3. by   Lisa CCU RN
    Not to sound rude ,but If 77 is passing and you got a 76, what do you want the Dean to do?

    I mean you say she should be sympathetic, but if that's the standard, do you think that she should just give those points to everyone who fell short?

    The grades on your demos may have been good, but the tests grades are obviously what count.

    All you can do at this point is figure out where you went wrong and try again despite it putting you back two semester that is if you really want to be a nurse.
    Why want to cuss her out?
    If you wanted to cuss her out for not being sympathetic, just wait.
    She may turn out to be one of the nicer people you deal with.

    Just my
  4. by   srg4784
    I feel the same way, I made a 73 in "across the lifepsan" we need 75.5, all my other grades were A's and B's (clinical work, labs, etc). I understand though, it wouldn't be fair to pass me when other people were just as close, or closer. Nursing is tough and I have found out that it's not for everyone. I use to be a firm believer that anyone can do anything as long as they put their mind to it. Then one day I realized, even if I tried and wanted to, I could never work for NASA lol. In nursing, there are no curves, and should not be simply because you wouldn't want someone working on you or someone you cared about that the program just "slid by" so to speak. To be a nurse it takes long hard determination. When people fail, this is when they shine their best. If this is what you really truly want, yes it will be hard, pick yourself up just as I am and go back and don't listen to anyone but yourself. Our dean has been quoted as to saying some not so nice things about the students at my school...This could be a rumor BUT some pretty credible students said our dean said "there's nothing wrong with our program, just a few bad students and when they get weeded out, the program will be just fine" and "the difference between an A student and a C student is that the A student can pick out the right answer on a test" how's that for a dean!!! Hang in there if you really want this!
  5. by   Gift.Fr.Virgo12
    [quote=Why want to cuss her out?
    If you wanted to cuss her out for not being sympathetic, just wait.
    She may turn out to be one of the nicer people you deal with.

    Just my [/quote]
    I understand what your're saying and thank you for your opinion.
    But you have to meet her to understand her. And she is suppose to be an advocate for students? She was never nice. And I would still cuss her ass out. And man a 76 is sao hurtful....to be held back two semsters.
  6. by   srg4784
    THink about the positive, when you get there again and pass it, think about how much stronger you will be in that course than the ones who passed it the first time. I think everything happens for a reason. I failed psych nursing and how ironic is it that I want to be a psych nurse. This way I'll be getting a double dose and will be that much stronger for 5th semester psych rotation. If I would have passed, I wouldnt' have been as strong because things were still confusing to me. I will be held back a semester, and this is my fifth year in college, that is how bad I want to be a nurse. Don't let one class get you down, I've never failed a class in my life until this one and doggone it, it's going to be my last one. Hang in there and don't let other people get to you (dean), because in this field, you have to deal with problems bigger than that. Just show her that you can do it and prove her wrong, then you will be the one laughing on the inside.
  7. by   Sheri257
    It's always been like this: people always fail by just a few points. Sometimes as little as three points and .... they will not cut you any slack.

    This is why I always tell people to grab every point they can on every single test before going into the final. You've got to have that cushion.

    And, to be honest, people have to get over the idea that teachers and school administrators are supposed to be student advocates because, they're not going to do that.

    Sometimes they're spectacularly unfair and sometimes they'll give you some breaks but their job isn't to advocate for you.

    Just because students want them to be advocates doesn't mean it's actually their job.

    :typing
    Last edit by Sheri257 on Dec 14, '06
  8. by   moongirl
    a grade is a grade is a grade. if it is 76, then 75 doesnt cut it.
    If she was judgmental and non therapuetic with her reponse, i am sorry. But it is not her fault you will be 2 semesters behind, it is yours.
    If you truly feel that you dont want to go on with this career choice, better to figure that out now and try something else than to waste any more of your time and just get angier
    good luck
  9. by   Sheri257
    I am not directing my post to the OP but I had a friend who was an LVN who was failing, and there was six weeks left in the semester. She was working ungodly hours even though she didn't have to. Her house was paid for, in full, and she could easily take out a home loan to pay her bills until she was finished with the program.

    I kept telling her to quit that stupid job, because even one semester's delay alone would cost her $40,000 in income, and she could pull it out if she did nothing but study for the rest of the semester. I told her that everybody who fails usually only fails by a few points ... and that she was going to really regret it if she didn't quit that job.

    She refused, and only cut back on some of her hours. She ended up failing by only seven points. Then she tried to make a big stink with the school administration for being unfair, and threatened to go to the BRN.

    I've seen this over and over in nursing school. For whatever reason, a lot of people don't take it seriously until the end when it's too late. I don't understand it.

    You have got to study hard for every single point on every single test. People go out partying, take trips and all kinds of stuff that I would never dream of doing during the semester. Way too risky for me .... I need all the study time I can get.

    :typing
    Last edit by Sheri257 on Dec 15, '06
  10. by   locolorenzo22
    While I do agree with the majority of fellow posters, her being unsympathetic to you may be the result of how you feel about not passing. She may also be trying to instill a feeling of "Boy, I'll show her, I'll come back and pass with 100%!! The problem comes when students feel instructors are personally out to get them. I know. My CI this semester did feel like she was out to get me first 2 weeks, then I relaxed, did what I KNEW was right, and then, BAM things got better.
    If they kept lowering the grade scale, soon there would be no need to go to school. The program would become a "diploma mill" and no real nursing student would want to go there...
    My friend got a 79.8 and 80 is passing. It stands to reason that one extra question on ANY unit test this semester may have passed her....but it didn't and she did not apply herself early enough to make a difference. I'm indifferent about her coming back, as she has to make her own decision...however, it becomes easier once you've already done it once, AND you have a leg up. Then, you understand that A) you're not the only one who failed, and B) If you want it, you get it, but only by your own hard work.
    your user profile says you're 22...age and years may show you the wisdom of what we say, but we will not force you to hear it.
  11. by   Lisa CCU RN
    Quote from lizz
    I am not directing my post to the OP but remember I had a friend who was an LVN who was failing, and there was six weeks left in the semester. She was working ungodly hours even though she didn't have to. Her house was paid for, in full, and she could easily take out a home loan to pay her bills until she was finished with the program.

    I kept telling her to quit that stupid job, because even one semester's delay alone would cost her $40,000 in income, and she could pull it out if she did nothing but study for the rest of the semester. I told her that everybody who fails usually only fails by a few points ... and that she was going to really regret it if she didn't quit that job.

    She refused, and only cut back on some of her hours. She ended up failing by only seven points. Then she tried to make a big stink with the school administration for being unfair, and threatened to go to the BRN.

    I've seen this over and over in nursing school. For whatever reason, a lot of people don't take it seriously until the end when it's too late. I don't understand it.

    You have got to study hard for every single point on every single test. People go out partying, take trips and all kinds of stuff that I would never dream of doing during the semester. Way too risky for me .... I need all the study time I can get.

    :typing
    OMG. I know what you mean. I have seen this over and over. People want to get go out the night before the test or say they didn't read the book or go out of town to visit a boyfriend/ girlfriend or whatever and wonder why they are failing.

    I don't get that at all.

    I don't
  12. by   Sheri257
    Quote from locolorenzo22
    If they kept lowering the grade scale, soon there would be no need to go to school. The program would become a "diploma mill" and no real nursing student would want to go there...

    My friend got a 79.8 and 80 is passing. It stands to reason that one extra question on ANY unit test this semester may have passed her....but it didn't and she did not apply herself early enough to make a difference.
    Yep ... you see it over and over. Some people don't apply themselves until it's too late. You'd think with the waiting lists and all of the courses you have to take to get in, they would do a lot more earlier but ... they don't.

    You're right. If they started cutting breaks on points they'd have to cut breaks for everyone and, eventually, the school would be nothing but a diploma mill.

    :typing
    Last edit by Sheri257 on Dec 14, '06
  13. by   Lisa CCU RN
    Quote from Gift.Fr.Virgo12
    I understand what your're saying and thank you for your opinion.
    But you have to meet her to understand her. And she is suppose to be an advocate for students? She was never nice. And I would still cuss her ass out. And man a 76 is sao hurtful....to be held back two semsters.
    Well, truth be told, cussing her out wouldn't get you any extra points and to me is a bit immature.

    JMO.
  14. by   nurse4theplanet
    I agree with much of what has been posted. While I understand the OPs feelings of frustration, I still hold him/her accountable for his/her failure.

    I am sure that it was clear before the final that it was going to be a close call on the final average due to a low grade on a previous test. The standard was clear and it is not the Dean, Ass. Dean, or any instructor's responsibility to change those standards for any student who falls even 1/2 a point short.

    Certainly, the WRONG course of action in this situation would be to cuss anyone out. That shows a lack of maturity and personal accountability.

    The proper course of action is to assess exactly what may have contributed to any poor performance on the student's part and implement ways to prevent those hindrances from recurring...not blame others for one's own shortcomings.

    Best of luck to you next time! I have seen many others in the same position and they were able to learn from their mistakes and come back even stronger. Hope you do the same.

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