I have to be bathed by my classmate??? - page 5

:imbar Ok call me old fashioned but I am kind of concerned. I had my nursing orientation today, and I was informed that as part of one of my practical nursing classes I will have to be sponge bathed... Read More

  1. by   HU_nurse
    O Heeeeelllllll Nooooooooo!!!!!!
  2. by   enfermeraSG
    RE: Enemas in nursing school

    OMG!!! Alright, things could always be worse! When I first came across this topic, I thought....what the??? baths in school? (I am beginning in August) But after reading THIS posting, I am viewing things differently! Baths wouldn't be so bad......SG
  3. by   Chaya
    Quote from 3rdShiftGuy
    I know how you feel, I was a bit surprised we had to do this too. It was very embarrassing for both of us involved. I lived through it, but hated it. It certainly didn't enhance my skills in anyway.
    Can't picture you being embarrassed about ANYTHING, Tweety. Must have been many moons ago!
  4. by   HisTreasure
    Quote from Star Trek Nerd
    I have to disagree with this. By this logic, every nurse should experience chemotherapy, defibrillation, catheters, etc and etc. Patients go through a lot of s***. That doesn't mean the nurses should too because we are giving the care. Where is the line drawn?

    Why does stripping down to your underwear in class make one a better nurse? I am wondering, but no one has quite answered that yet. We cannot and should not be forced to experience these things to be qualified as nurses.

    If it came down to it and I was required to do this in my program, I would walk and find another school that doesn't make you do it. Sorry. I will suffer for my craft but this is too much intimacy. I am very modest and religious, and no one but my husband is going to touch me/bathe me unless I am truly in the hospital and being given real care.

    It is a personal choice and should not be required.
    While I do not have a problem with the bathing itself, in your case, it's religious and understandable that you choose not to be bathed. An alternative must be offered, but outright refusal without seeking common ground with the instructor could be detrimental to your education. Personally, as a happily (most of the time LOL) married woman, I do not want another person of the opposite sex touching me or even looking at me too intently. On the other hand, if it's a female it could be ok, especially since these are the same people whom you will spend everyday with for years... your peers who will see you cry, moan, b*tch, complain, and cry some more. They will cry with you. It's all a bonding experience that will help us be better nurses and care for our patients holistically.
  5. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    We had to inject each other with saline. Oh that hurt. A couple of the SC injects that i was supposed to receive wound up as IMs.
  6. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    And we did breast exams on each other.
  7. by   rollingstone
    Part of our physical assessment labs included doing a breast exam on a classmate with the instructor supervising.
  8. by   Aneroo
    Quote from Star Trek Nerd
    I have to disagree with this. By this logic, every nurse should experience chemotherapy, defibrillation, catheters, etc and etc. Patients go through a lot of s***. That doesn't mean the nurses should too because we are giving the care. Where is the line drawn?

    Why does stripping down to your underwear in class make one a better nurse? I am wondering, but no one has quite answered that yet. We cannot and should not be forced to experience these things to be qualified as nurses.

    If it came down to it and I was required to do this in my program, I would walk and find another school that doesn't make you do it. Sorry. I will suffer for my craft but this is too much intimacy. I am very modest and religious, and no one but my husband is going to touch me/bathe me unless I am truly in the hospital and being given real care.

    It is a personal choice and should not be required.
    We have a woman in our class who is Menninite (don't think I spelled it right, but similar to Amish, but def. more liberal). My school has been so understanding with her. She was in a different lab than mine, so I don't know what she did, if she did it. If your choice is for a religious reason, I don't see why you should do it. I am fully against bathing in underwear, or even swimsuits. We did ours in shorts and a tank top. I'm not asking we do all sorts of invasive procedures to each other. I do think it's helpful that some people experience what it's like. In EMT school, we never put each other on the ambulance and drove around. I was asleep (or trying to) in the back of the ambulance one day while we were coming back from somewhere, and it's very scary. I think sometimes it's ok to do things that put you in the patients point of view, but again, non-invasive. As Kiyasmom said, talk to someone about it first, because it sounds like most people have had to do this in their program. Don't just say outright you're not doing it. -Andrea
  9. by   JimmyMallo
    Well guys and gals, at my school it was bathingsuit or underwear, and we drew for partners. I ended up with an 18yo female and I'm a burly 28 yo male. Everyone was nervous and no one voiced any objection because we want to be NURSES!! If you think you feel uncomfortable try the situation I was in at work the other day. Assisting a patient with bedpan use and cleaning her up, she was a 17yo female cheerleader! I was the tech on duty and she needed help, period. She was uncomfortable as hell and so was I but patient care is about the patient. As far as liability for someone acting inappropriatelly, what better was to weed out pervs and people to self concious for the job! Nurses are a different breed and if you can't take someone looking at you or doing a breast exam on you in a clinical environment your in the wrong line of work. You will have a patient one day who is severly impacted and you will stick your two fingers up their a$$ and dig it out and you had better be able to do it in a calm collected manner. These are the kinds of things people need from us and getting into a bathing suit or having a body pat touched by a fellow nursing student in a profession learning environment is not putting you in the patients shoes, it is like feeling 1/1000th of what they feel. One of the first objectives of any nursing school is to force you to view the human body (your's included) as a system. You have to be able to be objective and detached. If your little belly makes you uncomfortable, the class may help you deal with that, if you can't deal with that how will you deal with the day you roll over the patient and he pisses on you? These are real situations you WILL deal with and liability and self-consience thoughts should be at the bottom of your oh $hit pile. All I'm saying is that when you are in school do less judging and thinking about what you won't do and a little more time listening and realizing what you willl HAVE to do if this is what you want!! It's not for the faint of heart. Long winded I know but were I work 3 of the 6 new grad nurses quit in the first six months because even after graduating they had no idea what they were getting into. Give it some thought.


    Nurses are not made they're born
  10. by   Saved_by_Grace
    [font=lucida sans unicode]i am almost sorry that i ever posted anything about this. thank you to the ones that have listened and understood that i was only voicing a concern. i'm not even taking the darned classes yet and this last post tells me that i'm in the wrong line of work just because i said it would make me uncomfortable to be in my underwear at school! there is a complete difference in assisting a patient and having something done to you by a stranger that you aren't with day in and day out. if it was someone i wasn't going to see ever again in most probability it wouldn't have ever bothered me. and putting your finger up someone's $$$ as you so eloquently put it well that's part of nursing. and as a nurse i feel the utmost respect is due to the patient. but please don't tell me i wouldn't cut it as a nurse because i don't feel comfortable being in my underwear around people at school. if i was sick in a hospital then more power to them , undress me and bathe me away if you need to. i just don't think you fully understood that i was just voicing a shock from the orientation. i never said i was not going to do it, complain, or b&### as someone else previously said to the school. thanks to those that listened and know what i was trying to convey!



    Quote from jimmymallo
    well guys and gals, at my school it was bathingsuit or underwear, and we drew for partners. i ended up with an 18yo female and i'm a burly 28 yo male. everyone was nervous and no one voiced any objection because we want to be nurses!! if you think you feel uncomfortable try the situation i was in at work the other day. assisting a patient with bedpan use and cleaning her up, she was a 17yo female cheerleader! i was the tech on duty and she needed help, period. she was uncomfortable as hell and so was i but patient care is about the patient. as far as liability for someone acting inappropriatelly, what better was to weed out pervs and people to self concious for the job! nurses are a different breed and if you can't take someone looking at you or doing a breast exam on you in a clinical environment your in the wrong line of work. you will have a patient one day who is severly impacted and you will stick your two fingers up their a$$ and dig it out and you had better be able to do it in a calm collected manner. these are the kinds of things people need from us and getting into a bathing suit or having a body pat touched by a fellow nursing student in a profession learning environment is not putting you in the patients shoes, it is like feeling 1/1000th of what they feel. one of the first objectives of any nursing school is to force you to view the human body (your's included) as a system. you have to be able to be objective and detached. if your little belly makes you uncomfortable, the class may help you deal with that, if you can't deal with that how will you deal with the day you roll over the patient and he pisses on you? these are real situations you will deal with and liability and self-consience thoughts should be at the bottom of your oh $hit pile. all i'm saying is that when you are in school do less judging and thinking about what you won't do and a little more time listening and realizing what you willl have to do if this is what you want!! it's not for the faint of heart. long winded i know but were i work 3 of the 6 new grad nurses quit in the first six months because even after graduating they had no idea what they were getting into. give it some thought.


    nurses are not made they're born
  11. by   Truly_Blessed
    Quote from JimmyMallo
    Well guys and gals, at my school it was bathingsuit or underwear, and we drew for partners. I ended up with an 18yo female and I'm a burly 28 yo male. Everyone was nervous and no one voiced any objection because we want to be NURSES!! If you think you feel uncomfortable try the situation I was in at work the other day. Assisting a patient with bedpan use and cleaning her up, she was a 17yo female cheerleader! I was the tech on duty and she needed help, period. She was uncomfortable as hell and so was I but patient care is about the patient. As far as liability for someone acting inappropriatelly, what better was to weed out pervs and people to self concious for the job! Nurses are a different breed and if you can't take someone looking at you or doing a breast exam on you in a clinical environment your in the wrong line of work. You will have a patient one day who is severly impacted and you will stick your two fingers up their a$$ and dig it out and you had better be able to do it in a calm collected manner. These are the kinds of things people need from us and getting into a bathing suit or having a body pat touched by a fellow nursing student in a profession learning environment is not putting you in the patients shoes, it is like feeling 1/1000th of what they feel. One of the first objectives of any nursing school is to force you to view the human body (your's included) as a system. You have to be able to be objective and detached. If your little belly makes you uncomfortable, the class may help you deal with that, if you can't deal with that how will you deal with the day you roll over the patient and he pisses on you? These are real situations you WILL deal with and liability and self-consience thoughts should be at the bottom of your oh $hit pile. All I'm saying is that when you are in school do less judging and thinking about what you won't do and a little more time listening and realizing what you willl HAVE to do if this is what you want!! It's not for the faint of heart. Long winded I know but were I work 3 of the 6 new grad nurses quit in the first six months because even after graduating they had no idea what they were getting into. Give it some thought.


    Nurses are not made they're born
    Ummm, wow. I think she was just voicing her opinion in regards to what she was told at orientation. I think it's a quite normal reaction. I have yet to go to orientation...I had no idea we would end up doing things like that. When I read this post it was funny, but gave me a tiny bit of butterflies in my stomach. I will do whatever it takes to become a nurse...but I think that's anyones normal reaction when they hear that their classmates will be bathing or showering them. Geesh...thanx for being blunt, but you didn't have to tear her a new butthole, ya know. It's a simple question/concern that I think is quite valid. And your reply was a little harsh; you could have been a bit more tactful when trying to convey your point. OP, don't let the negativity frustrate you before you have even begun. Keep trudging along....becoming a nurse might be the best decision you have ever made!
    Last edit by Truly_Blessed on May 19, '04
  12. by   JimmyMallo
    my intention was not to offend anyone, and i certainly did not direct this to the poster directly. if you were personally offended i appologize. that was not my intent, this post is 7 pages long and i was speaking to the conversation not any individual. i am passionant about the subjest because it seems at least in my limited experience that alot of students don't realize that things are the way they are for a reason. the feelings you are feeling are the same that my fat a$$ felt getting soaped up by an 18yo, but they serve a purpose, helping someone to get over themselves is a vital lesson in nursing and too few nurses are learning it. if i came off as brash it is because i am passionant and maybe i should proofread like my english teacher alway told me:chuckle

    i just wanted to say your feelings are normal and expected and if you get through it you will be better off for it.

    as for being sorry you ever posted this message, don't this is only my opinion and we all know what opinions are like

    Quote from wannablpn2005
    [font=lucida sans unicode]i am almost sorry that i ever posted anything about this. thank you to the ones that have listened and understood that i was only voicing a concern. i'm not even taking the darned classes yet and this last post tells me that i'm in the wrong line of work just because i said it would make me uncomfortable to be in my underwear at school! there is a complete difference in assisting a patient and having something done to you by a stranger that you aren't with day in and day out. if it was someone i wasn't going to see ever again in most probability it wouldn't have ever bothered me. and putting your finger up someone's $$$ as you so eloquently put it well that's part of nursing. and as a nurse i feel the utmost respect is due to the patient. but please don't tell me i wouldn't cut it as a nurse because i don't feel comfortable being in my underwear around people at school. if i was sick in a hospital then more power to them , undress me and bathe me away if you need to. i just don't think you fully understood that i was just voicing a shock from the orientation. i never said i was not going to do it, complain, or b&### as someone else previously said to the school. thanks to those that listened and know what i was trying to convey!
  13. by   Truly_Blessed
    Quote from JimmyMallo
    My intention was not to offend anyone, and I certainly did not direct this to the poster directly. If you were personally offended I appologize. That was not my intent, this post is 7 pages long and I was speaking to the conversation not any individual. I am passionant about the subjest because it seems at least in my limited experience that alot of students don't realize that things are the way they are for a reason. The feelings you are feeling are the same that my fat a$$ felt getting soaped up by an 18yo, but they serve a purpose, helping someone to get over themselves is a vital lesson in nursing and too few nurses are learning it. If I came off as brash it is because I am passionant and maybe I should proofread like my english teacher alway told me:chuckle

    I just wanted to say your feelings are normal and expected and if you get through it you will be better off for it.

    As for being sorry you ever posted this message, DON'T this is only my opinion and we all know what opinions are like
    Cool, cool.

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