I hate Sim Man's Genitals!

  1. I am a second semester nursing student and I am dreading the first catheter I have to do on a real person. I feel completely unprepared to do it (I may feel better after I see someone at clinical do it on a real person). I know how based off of Sim Man, but sim man sucks! On Sim Man, his urethra looks like the opening to a cave (FYI, if a man has a urethra that looks like that he has major issues lol), and I could probably get a water hose down there if I wanted to. Sim Woman has the opposite problem to where you can't get the stupid thing in there. This is not just me, the dean of nursing could not get the darn thing in 'her'.

    I know I am going to get to see it done on a real person before I have to do it myself. I would actually like to see it several times to be honest. I also would like to have someone watch me the first few times I do it to make sure everything is ok. That being said, the whole things makes me nervous as hell. We, as well as the patient, know that it is just something that needs to be done; but it is hard to seem nonchalant about it when you are nervous about your skills to do it.

    My wife volunteered to let me practice on her. If I get the stuff do you think that may be a good idea? As for the male, I could always try and do it to myself. The point of view may be different, but it would give me a better general idea (and a bit more confidence about it).

    My school has brand new equipment. Other than the catheter sim man is a great learning tool (NG tube can be a pain some times, but is doable). Any suggestions as to how I can get my skills better?
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  3. by   vanilla bean
    Quote from Zooey72
    My wife volunteered to let me practice on her. If I get the stuff do you think that may be a good idea? As for the male, I could always try and do it to myself. The point of view may be different, but it would give me a better general idea (and a bit more confidence about it).
    I wonder how many previous readers scanned your post and missed this little gem. Zooey72, if *you* think this is a good idea, I seriously question your judgement.
  4. by   amoLucia
    I'm having a very hard time believing that this post is for real!?!?

    But if for nothing else to say - DO NOT attempt practicing on yourself or your wife!!!! The risk for potential injury is too great.

    And not sure where you'd get the equip. STEALING from school is just that - STEALING. Likewise from an employer.
  5. by   Simplistic
    LMAO!
  6. by   RainMom
    What makes you think you'll get to watch it done on a live pt before you have to do it? Maybe, maybe not. I know I didn't. While it may seem ideal to watch someone else place a Foley a few times before you do one yourself, you won't likely have that many opportunities to just watch in clinical. The best you can do is to practice in the lab & I think you might be able to find a few YouTube videos. (Not a bright idea to try this at home; just...don't.) Sure, that lab dummy's anatomy is NOTHING like a real pt, but the steps will be the same & you'll learn some pointers for the difficult pts along the way as you get more experience.

    Seriously, if you know your steps & sterile technique, when it comes down to it, all you need is your instructor or preceptor watching to give a pointer or two along with an extra hand if you need it. After you've done it a couple times on your own, you'll look back at this & realize you were over stressing it big time.
  7. by   Zooey72
    First off, love the nursing responses on this. The fact any of you are allowed around patients says a lot.
    Where would I get the equipment? I have already BOUGHT it. They came my first semester as part of my school supplies. The fact that you thought of stealing before anything else shows that someone made a mistake when they gave you access to drugs.

    Self catheterization - male: MedlinePlus Medical Encyclopedia

    Outside of a quick google search, I was taught that people do it at home. Not only that, but when done at home it is clean and not sterile. Now if I am wrong with any of this fine. I have been wrong before, and will be wrong again. However, I made a post because I was worried about not doing a good job once I become an RN. I would prefer not to learn on a dummy (that did not work) before I do something with a live person. If it is the case that you just have to jump in feet first w/o seeing it done, that is fine too, I will adjust. Considering all of the countless head to toes I have done which are not a big deal, touching someone's private parts and just figuring it out as you go along did not seem logical.
    Last edit by Esme12 on Mar 19 : Reason: TOS
  8. by   Purple_roses
    Those darn ***** telling you not to practice on your wife!
    Last edit by Esme12 on Mar 19 : Reason: TOS
  9. by   Purple_roses
    Quote from Zooey72
    First off, love the nursing responses on this. The fact any of you are allowed around patients says a lot.
    Where would I get the equipment? I have already BOUGHT it. They came my first semester as part of my school supplies. The fact that you thought of stealing before anything else shows that someone made a mistake when they gave you access to drugs.

    Self catheterization - male: MedlinePlus Medical Encyclopedia

    Outside of a quick google search, I was taught that people do it at home. Not only that, but when done at home it is clean and not sterile. Now if I am wrong with any of this fine. I have been wrong before, and will be wrong again. However, I made a post because I was worried about not doing a good job once I become an RN. I would prefer not to learn on a dummy (that did not work) before I do something with a live person. If it is the case that you just have to jump in feet first w/o seeing it done, that is fine too, I will adjust. Considering all of the countless head to toes I have done which are not a big deal, touching someone's private parts and just figuring it out as you go along did not seem logical.
    Well, at least these nurses didn't get their license from Google search, right?

    Also, true or false: the urinary system is a sterile system.

    True or false: systems that are sterile should remain sterile.
    Last edit by Esme12 on Mar 19
  10. by   meanmaryjean
    This is seriously freaking me out.
  11. by   Purple_roses
    Yeah. Practicing on the wife without an instructor makes more sense than practicing on a patient under an instructor's supervision. Catheterization (especially on a female) doesn't need to be sterile. Assessments "are not a big deal."

    Lots of telling information here.
  12. by   Zooey72
    Liberator Medical Catheter Commercial - YouTube

    I will give your ignorance a pass since you didn't bother to look at where my "google search" came from. It ended in .gov
    If you don't know what that means I suggest you look it up.

    For cry'n out loud. Go on amazon and see that you can buy them
  13. by   de05432
    There are no words.
  14. by   Rose_Queen
    Quote from Zooey72
    First off, love the nursing responses on this. The fact any of you are allowed around patients says a lot.
    Just because you don't agree with the responses you're getting doesn't mean you need to resort to name-calling.
    Where would I get the equipment? I have already BOUGHT it. They came my first semester as part of my school supplies. The fact that you thought of stealing before anything else shows that someone made a mistake when they gave you access to drugs.
    School supplies are meant to be used for school. Practicing on your wife or yourself is not school, and I highly doubt the school would approve of it. And again, no need to attack those responding.

    Self catheterization - male: MedlinePlus Medical Encyclopedia

    Outside of a quick google search, I was taught that people do it at home. Not only that, but when done at home it is clean and not sterile. Now if I am wrong with any of this fine. I have been wrong before, and will be wrong again. However, I made a post because I was worried about not doing a good job once I become an RN. I would prefer not to learn on a dummy (that did not work) before I do something with a live person. If it is the case that you just have to jump in feet first w/o seeing it done, that is fine too, I will adjust. Considering all of the countless head to toes I have done which are not a big deal, touching someone's private parts and just figuring it out as you go along did not seem logical.
    Those who self-cath at home have a medical necessity for it and would have gone through extensive education and return demonstration. You are a student; your practice should be through approved methods, such as the simulator and patients with a medical necessity to be cathed where you are guided and watched by an instructor.
    Last edit by Esme12 on Mar 19 : Reason: TOS

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