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  1. Apr 25, '12 by
    I would not let him bother you. I am still working towards my classes to apply to an ADN program, knowing full well that I will immediately have to get into an RN-BSN program after that. I really wish that I had the ability to go into a BSN program from the start. Congrats on making it into the program and good luck!
  2. Apr 25, '12 by
    My instructor told me once in LPN school that "nurses love to eat their young". So far (2 years now) I have found this to be true, sad, but true. One nurse always wants to be better than the other.
    To me it doesn't make a difference. Good for you for going for your goals! Proud of you!
  3. Apr 25, '12 by
    I completed my ADN program, and although a local BSN program does require more pre-reqs, I am able to bypass most of them at the university since I took classes for my AA in liberal arts while on the waiting list for the nursing program..actually I am finishing my last two classes now. I will be able to get into the RN-BSN program with only 10 nursing classes to complete online- saving a few thousand dollars by taking most pre-reqs at the community college where I got my ADN (many of my ADN classes fufill required "core" areas) There are so many different paths in Nursing- I see that the trend is torward BSN prepared RN's, but the ADN program got me started on building my nursing experience a two years earlier! Plus that RN paycheck is better for paying university tuition!! Best of luck to you and all other students (like myself!)
  4. Apr 25, '12 by
    Quote from ixchel
    I think here it ends up being six one way half a dozen the other. The only difference is the time. The ADN by itself will be cheaper probably by a good $10k-$15k. But if you decide to go ADN-BSN, you would end up paying more and spending probably another year longer than just going BSN because the university requires the gen eds, and then a year of nursing classes. It's absurd, to tell the truth. If you never want more than ADN, then it makes sense to go that route, but if you want BSN in face to face classes, you just have to do it from the starting line.

    I am an ADN student. I happen to be taking the gen eds for the BSN while getting my ADN degree. And in the long run I am saving a TON of money. I get grants which 100% cover my classes while getting my ADN, that would not have been the case if I started with BSN. Also the gen ed are much cheaper at the CC then the 4 year school. I do plan on getting my masters one day. So not sure what this extra time is that you are talking about or the extra money that I would be paying......
    Last edit by ivikatasha on Apr 25, '12
  5. Apr 25, '12 by
    AAAARGH!!!! I could scream!!!!! I just wrote this massive response and it got eaten! Boooooo allnurses.com, BOOO!!!!

    ivikatasha, I'll write it all out in detail again if you'd like, but basically, the price difference between ADN-BSN, and just straight BSN, if you do all of your prereqs and gen eds at the community college, is $19,200 for the ADN-BSN, and $21,000 for the straight BSN, so you're right about that route being cheaper, although not by very much at all. The difference in time, though, is pretty significant. The ADN program is 5 semesters, the gen eds for the BSN take 4 semesters, and then the BSN nursing classes are another 2. So you're looking at another year, unless you decide not to do your prerequisites as co-requisites before getting into the LPN/ADN program. If you do your prerequisites before starting nursing classes, you're looking at another 1-2 semesters. You'd be in school for at least another year doing the ADN-BSN program.
  6. Apr 25, '12 by
    I am wondering about the math there. The 4 year I plan on getting my BSN from (which is local and automatically accepts grads from the CC program) their credit hour cost is 3 times that of the CC credit hour. I wouldn't be taking any extra classes, so I would save way more then you say.

    60-90 credits at the CC and then 60-30 credits at the 4 year at 3 times more vs 120 credits at the 4 year at 3 times more.

    I would just have 2 years of nursing classes, and combined with 5 semester CC program, that is just a single extra semester of time vs a 4 year BSN. Which is a very small price to pay considering the thousands of dollars this route has saved me so far.

    Also, with the ADN, I get my RN license before the BSN. I can work during my ADN-BSN and get the experience I need.



    *I live in fear of my posts being eaten, happened too many times, so I copy the whole post I typed before hitting post comment*
  7. Apr 25, '12 by
    Quote from ivikatasha
    I am wondering about the math there. The 4 year I plan on getting my BSN from (which is local and automatically accepts grads from the CC program) their credit hour cost is 3 times that of the CC credit hour. I wouldn't be taking any extra classes, so I would save way more then you say.

    60-90 credits at the CC and then 60-30 credits at the 4 year at 3 times more vs 120 credits at the 4 year at 3 times more.

    I would just have 2 years of nursing classes, and combined with 5 semester CC program, that is just a single extra semester of time vs a 4 year BSN. Which is a very small price to pay considering the thousands of dollars this route has saved me so far.

    Also, with the ADN, I get my RN license before the BSN. I can work during my ADN-BSN and get the experience I need.



    *I live in fear of my posts being eaten, happened too many times, so I copy the whole post I typed before hitting post comment*
    I definitely feel you on the experience of it. I've actually been in a CNA class because I am so nervous about not having hands-on. I used to be a Lamaze Certified Childbirth Educator. I was a master at all of the theory stuff. I could tell you forward and backward the process of birth. But if you put me in front of a class, I was like a deer in the headlights. I was terrified! I can relate and teach well, one-on-one, but my lack of experience with groups made me choke. It was terrible! Experience is sooooo important! And if I'm putting this much time into something, I want to know I'm going to kick a** at it.

    Okay, for all of the math stuff. I broke those numbers down like this. If you do all of your prereqs and gen eds at a CC no matter which program you do, it saves you money no matter what school you're looking at. So my calculations are based on the cheapest options I have available to me here where I live. The CC is roughly $100 per credit hour.

    ADN program (which is LPN, then ADN): 70 credits, $7000
    ADN-BSN bridge program: roughly 40 credits of gen eds (@ CC): $4,000
    2 full time semesters of nursing classes at university: $7,300 (they charge a flat rate for full time)
    Total: $19,300

    BSN gen eds at CC: 60 credits, $6,000
    BSN program: 4 semesters full time at university, $14,600
    Total: $20,600

    (My numbers are different by a few hundred because I decided to not be lazy and actually looked it up this time. )

    I participate on another board that eats posts all of the time, but I've never had it happen here before. The other board eats partial posts, though, so instead of losing the whole thing, you end up looking like a moron who can't complete a sentence.
  8. Apr 25, '12 by
    ADN-BSN: 33 nursing credits $9900 (4 year rate $300 an hour) + $5400 (54 credits at 100 an hour, I can take all the the other classes at the CC expect for maybe one or 2) + 3300 (33 nursing credits imported from ADN program, taken at CC) = $18600 (may be $1000 high due to some gen eds not being able to take at CC)


    BSN: (includes all nursing classes and geneds) 120 credits at $300 an hour = $36000


    I am guessing it is just a huge difference in the way our schools work here and how they charge for tuition and what can be trasnferred in, but I am saving over $15,000 here.

    Lets say I took all the gen eds at the CC, 54 of them, and just the nursing credits at the 4 year = $25200. Still saving $6,000ish.

    I looked up my stuff too, the classes and such and rates, rounded a little, but both rates would be a little higher.

    *shrug*
  9. Apr 25, '12 by
    That is a huge difference! I just thank my lucky stars for financial aid. Now that I'm transferring to the university and my tuition is going to jump up so much, I'll lose the refund check that we've been fortunate enough to get each semester. I'm applying for a million and one scholarships, but it seems everyone else is applying for the same ones I am. I'm still not sure what the magic words are to get one. I'm on my last 2 apps, and I'm pretty sure the scholarship committees will be able to smell the desperation through the envelopes.

    How much longer until you're finished the ADN program?
  10. Apr 25, '12 by
    I have applied for a few scholarships too, but I will decline them now, just found out I had enough aid (only if I win any scholarships of course, havent found out yet) and I don't want to take that away from someone who really needs it. Good luck on winning those scholarships!

    :uhoh21:.... about a year and a half. haha, it is going great so far though