How are other nursing programs graded?

  1. Hi everyone!

    I just have a few quick questions about how everyone elses program grades.

    This is our grading system by points.

    three 50 point tests
    one comprehensive 100 point final
    two written assignments worth 10 points each
    one presentation worth 10 points
    one careplan worth 30 points

    Is anyone elses math grade averaged in with your tests (ours is not)?
    Is anyone elses clinical grade averaged in with your tests (ours is not)?

    I was just wondering because we can get kicked out of the program for poor clinical performance, or if we fail the math test, but if we pass them with flying colors it does not matter as far as averaging them in with the other tests.

    One more question. For our last year, they are totally revamping the program and making our tests with fill in the blanks and multiple answers like NCLEX has done. Has anyone elses program done this yet, or are planning to?
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  2. 16 Comments

  3. by   JenRN_2B
    Our whole grading system is weird. I think It'd make just as much sense if they just lined up Bozo buckets and tossed in balls with percentage points written on them. We get a slew of tests worth 100 pts each, except for the dosage and calculation test which is just pass/fail, and as many pop quizes as the instructor feels like giving. Passing grade for theory is 80%. All of clinical, even the written part of clinical, is pass/fail.
  4. by   Nurse2bSandy
    We get graded on all lecture classes... that's even math for meds. In order to move on you must pass math for meds with a 90%. Then, in all the other classes from med/surg on... gero, peds, ob, complex care, community health, etc... there are at least 10% math questions on each exam and those get added into the exam grade.
    All clinicals are pass/fail, but if we fail a clinical, we also fail the coordinating lecture.
    Hope this confusing system clears up your question!
  5. by   Nemhain
    I'm in an ADN program and every nursing class (we only have one each semester and it's 9 credits!) is graded the same: 4 multiple choice tests that are each worth 22% of our grade and one paper worth 12%. 75% average or higher is needed in order to pass the lecture. Clinical is pass/fail and if one should fail clinical you fail the entire nursing course. We do have a pass/fail math test each semester and we must get 100%, however, we get 10 attempts! Frankly, if someone can't get 100% in 10 tries then that person really shouldn't be in the nursing program. No one has ever been dismissed from the program because of the math test, but someone did come close to it last year.
    My only big complaint is the paper. The instructors aren't clear on the expectations of the paper and the grading is a little whacked. We have 72 people in the class with 5 different instructors (which is really nice to not have to listen to the same person the entire semester! ). They divide the papers up to grade them and let me tell you, they all grade different. It's really not fair. Last semester one group got a 58 average on their papers, while another group's average was 80. Other than the aforementioned paper complaint, I am really happy with my program and the tests.
  6. by   twintoo
    We have 2 classes that we are graded on: Theory and Practicum. In 1st and 3rd semester theory class we take a math for meds test. We get 3 chances to make a 90%. If we do not make the 90% then we are kicked out but it the grade does not average into your overall grade.
    In theory We have:
    5 100pt exams worth 70%
    Final-comprehensive worth 20%
    A therapeutic communication paper worth 5%
    Homework worth 5%

    Then for Practicum (we do care plans every week)
    Written Nursing Process (care plan) worth 35%
    Journal (written every week) 10%
    Case Studies 5%
    Simulated lab test 20%
    Questionnaires (dont know what this is b/c we haven't done them) 10%
    Role as manager 10%
    Role within the Discipline of Nursing 10%

    Our grading scale is:
    91-100=A
    80-90=B
    74-79=C
    65-73=D
    0-64=F

    There has been no mention of our school revamping tests to be like the NCLEX exams. However, one of our Sophomore instructors writes questions for the NCLEX so we may be switching and nobody is saying. HTH
  7. by   mitchsmom
    we can get kicked out of the program for poor clinical performance, or if we fail the math test, but if we pass them with flying colors it does not matter as far as averaging them in with the other tests.
    Same here. Individual teachers have their own grading systems for each class and clinicals are pass/fail, but if you fail a clinical you fail the whole class. My pharm class has weekly quizzes worth 40%, a paper 20% and a final 40%, another class has midterm 25%, 2 papers each 25%, and a final 25%. Another class had 5 tests 20% each. They are just all different.

    We also have med math tests that aren't really a part of a class, you just have to pass for the program (the one I've done so far, we had to get 84%+). We also have to do ERI testing on the computer every so often, I just had to do my pharm one (it's supposed to predict NCLEX succes I think, if you don't get national average you have to do remediation). That one got on my nerves because we aren't even DONE with pharm yet!!

    Our nursing tests are definitely geared toward the NCLEX style.

    Our grading scale is:
    92-100 A
    83-91 B
    74-82 C (we have to pass with a C to get credit)
    65-73 D
    <65 F
    Last edit by mitchsmom on Mar 31, '04
  8. by   JenRN_2B
    I hate our grading scale! I understand the point behind it, but I get so stressed out over it...

    92-100=A
    86-91=B
    80-85=C
    0-79.999999999999=F
  9. by   lilbiskit78
    Our grading is different for each class, therefore it can get a little confusing. In psych we have 3 regular tests (each 50 questions) and a comprehensive final (100 questions), each test, including final, is 25% of grade....our lecture grade comes entirely from tests and nothing else. The same is true for med-surg, 3 regular tests (50 questions) and a comprehensive, 100 question final. However in med-surg, each regular test counts only 20% of grade and the final is 40% of our grade (YIKES!). All the care plans, papers, dosage calculation quizzes, ect we do don't count for our lecture grade, they count as part of our clinical grade....a little strange to me. And yes, our school is implementing the new NCLEX type questions into our tests....they have graphs on there, fill in the blank, and multiple-multiple (select all that are true) questions! Those are the worst!!
  10. by   Boe
    78% 6 exams (50 questions)
    22% Comprehensive final (100 questions)

    Abbrevation test pass/fail 2 attempts
    Clinical pass/fail
    check offs pass/fail 3 attempts
    math pass/fail 3 attempts (each exam also has math questions)


    If you fail check off you fail the whole course.
    If you fail clinical you fail the whole course.

    And after everything is done there is one additional exam that does not count toward your grade, but if you fail it you fail the whole course (It is like another Comprehensive final)
  11. by   mitchsmom
    multiple-multiple (select all that are true) questions! Those are the worst!!
    I don't know... in a way I'd rather be able to pick ALL the correct ones than pick the BEST out of several correct ones. I've never been good at picking the best one (I know, I'd better learn how fast...)
  12. by   Nemhain
    Quote from JenRN_2B
    I hate our grading scale! I understand the point behind it, but I get so stressed out over it...

    92-100=A
    86-91=B
    80-85=C
    0-79.999999999999=F
    Mother Lord Almighty!!!! Seriously, I think that's a little too harsh. :uhoh21:
    Jen, my heart goes out to you!
    If that were my program's grading scale then 45% of the people would be gone. Last semester the class average was 81 (I got an 86 :hatparty: ) so I'm sure there were a ton of people in the 75 - 79 range.

    Our grading scale is
    93-100 = A
    90-92.9 = A-
    88-89.9 = B+
    85-87.9 = B
    83-84.9 = B-
    80-82.9 = C+
    75-79.9 = C
  13. by   Ruylupez
    Our grading scale is:
    100 - 93 =A
    92 - 86 = B
    85 - 80 = C

    Below a C is failing so I don't worry about where the cutoffs are for grades lower than that.

    We generally have:
    2 exams worth 28% of the final grade each
    a comprehensive final worth 24% of our final grade
    the HESI exam worth 10% of our final grade
    11 quizzes. the lowest quiz grade is dropped and the others are averaged to account for the final 10% of the grade.

    In first semester the math quiz was counted as one of our 11 quizzes, in second semester we had another math quiz and it did not count towards the final grade. I am assuming we will have math quizzes in third and fourth sememster too.
    The math quiz has to be passed with a 90% score within three tries, with each time you try a little harder than the one before. Fail to pass by the third time and you fail the class.

    Each clinical day is graded as either satisfactory or unsatisfactory. If we get 3 unsatisfactorys during any rotation we fail the class regardless of our grade in class but other than that clinicals have no affect on our grades.

    They also have what they call a grand slam, which is an error or problem so serious that it gets you ejected from the program the first time you do it. Their examples of this are anything negligent that injures a patient or could have injured a patient or being disruptive during clinicals but anything else can be a grand slam at their discression. So far the only grand slam we have had was a student who failed the hospitals required drug screening when we were starting clinicals first semester.
    Last edit by Ruylupez on Apr 1, '04
  14. by   JenRN_2B
    Quote from Nemhain
    If that were my program's grading scale then 45% of the people would be gone. Last semester the class average was 81 (I got an 86 :hatparty: ) so I'm sure there were a ton of people in the 75 - 79 range.
    Try 60%! That's right, we lose about 60% from begining to end. Honestly, I thought all grading scales were like ours.

    WooHoo on your 86% !! That's awesome!

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