had it with nursing school already! - page 4
I need some feedback on how to deal with some of the issues that I am facing now in week 5 of school. Its really gotten old. We have lots of instructors that do not communicate well with each other,... Read More
Oct 7, '06You don't know joy until you've been through the horrors ofand then finally at the end pass boards and become an RN. The sun shines brighter and the flowers smell sweeter. I absolutely loved nursing school and I hated it more than anything I have ever done in my life. I did an accelerated BSN and it was excruciating. We had amazing teachers and a terrible terrible department. You are definitely not alone. Just remember that it is so worth it and it feels soooo good when it is over.
Oct 7, '06We have to keep in mind that shortage of nursing faculty is part of what is driving the overall nursing shortage. So, hang in there - and then go on and get enough training to qualify to teach - we need people who recognize the difference between good and poor teaching settings.
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Oct 7, '06Ok, I am a student also, but if you think yu have stress, try being deployed into combat.
Nothing like a dose of fear for your life in a 12 month prescription to rearrange the stressors.
You will be ok.
Oct 7, '06i cannot offer false platitudes. what you are experiencing occurs worldwide and is constant.
you will continue to experience it when you are an rn in the workforce.
i dont see the sense in telling people to "hang in there" just because we have a nursing shortage. the nursing education boards world-wide need to see that students are dropping out because what they learn is a far distance from what they practice.
nursing is unique in that we are both a trade and a profession and we need to have 60% hands on learning. provide intense university courses for post-graduate studies.
ward work is the busiest and most thankless of all. that is the reality. dont waste your time doing a nursing degree if it's not for you - other professions have better working conditions and higher rates of pay.
nursing has always been between a rock and a hard place. look after your own needs first. the nursing shortage will become a crisis but we have to let that happen sooner rather than later. and we all have to remember not to sacrifice ourselves on the cross of martyrdom. "no i cannot do extra shifts - i am exhausted. bye for now."
and we have to stop ******** about each other. every allied-profession will say that nurses are number 1 for ********, winging and back-stabbing.
Oct 7, '06I know exactly what you mean. I am in my first year and having been out of the school experience for so long, I see the "clicks" and the "backstabbing" all too much.
Just realise that women are catty and its their nature to be catty. (Sorry but its true and you all know it..)
You will have good days and bad days, just remember that it wont always be this way and you just have to get thru it. Cope as best you can in the meantime. I remind myself everyday why I am in nursing school and the silly petty stuff just dissolves.
I kind of feel bad for the instructors, remember there is an instructor shortage big time so their lack of communication is to be expected as they are often over-extended by their teaching responsibility. They realise how this impacts the students too so dont beat yourself up over it. They see the students that show up the other students too, no one likes a smart-@ss, expecially them.
I think TRauma's post was good advice. Hang in there, my RN to be !!!
Oct 7, '06I see you are going to the same school I graduated from! I can only advise that you take this difficulty as an opportunity to reevaluate your desire to be a nurse. If you feel strongly that this is the career you want to devote your future to, then I believe it is worth the uphill climb that nursing school is for us all.
Think of it as trial by fire. The struggle makes the victory that much more glorious. The easier things come to us, the easier they go, the less they mean. So after graduating, you will truly feel a sense of accomplishment, as well as a relief so sweet that you will actually feel a breeze and sunlight upon your face as the last second of the last day of school ticks by.
And if nursing is probably not the thing you want to do, nursing school will be the thing you definitely do not want to do. You will only find yourself, in the end, with only a pyrrhic victory.
Oct 7, '063rd semester student checking in here, and I'm sorry to say that it probably won't get much better. Everything else will probably stay the same you'll just get much better at coping with it. Either that or you'll burn out and fall down to earth (if that makes any sense). I was a nervous wreck too but I think I've since disassociated myself from that...hard to explain.
Here's a nice inspirational anecdote for you though-
A lot of the biggest "competitors" from my class are all basically the ones that are struggling the hardest in 3rd semester. Two never made it past first semester, and another got held back last semester.
I remember one very smug woman from my first semester group who would give you an earful all about how she was, "Going back to school" and already had a Bachelors degree in business or something, and studying/test taking wasn't a problem etc etc. Guess what? She couldn't hack it, dropped out, and disappeared never to be seen again.
So yea, keep your chin up.
hahaha here check out this post I made back in February. Classic example of stress getting to me! I made it through everything though alright, and its all just a trial.
http://allnurses.com/forums/f50/im-b...ck-141691.htmlLast edit by november17 on Oct 7, '06
Oct 7, '06I graduated from a two year nursing school 29 years ago and it was one of the hardest experiences I have ever been through. I had 3 small children at the time--7 mos., 3 & 6 yrs. old and no one in my family would help me with them. I had a hard time finding baby sitters. But, my wonderful husband helped all he could along with a wonderful woman at our church and I was able to get through school. The key word is "determined". I am, by nature a stubborn person and I found out when attending nursing school that this was a good trait to have because at every turn, it seemed, that someone was trying to thwart my attempts to finish. Most of my instructors were encouraging but there were at least two that were set on failing everyone if they could and one of them I swear was an escaped psychiatric pt. My motto was: "If you can dish it out I can take it." The advice that everyone has given you is good sound advice. First, make sure you want to be a nurse because when you begin to work there will be other people who will try to make your life miserable, believe me-co-workers, drs, administrators, etc. I always kept my sights on what I needed to do and to ignore anyone who was negative. I remember what one of my instructors said when we complained about the two terrible instructors: She said: "sometimes this is done to weed out those who can't take stress, because believe me if you can't take the stress in nursing school you won't make it when you start to work." I would tell you if you really are sure you want to be a nurse then concentrate on your courses, find a few friends, and talk to the instructors if you are unclear on what they said. Keep your eyes on what you want--your RN degree and don't let anyone deter you or frustrate you into quitting. There were a couple of times when I felt like quitting but I hung in there. It will be worth it in the end!
One of the terrible instructors favorite tricks was to tell you something in class and then when she gave a test and you got the question wrong, based on what she had said in class, she would deny that she said that. We even showed her our notes and she denied saying it. This instructor would also make fun of people during class. Like I said, I could have sworn she was an escaped psych. pt.
Good luck. Keep us informed.
Oct 7, '06Quote from jovWow... you're perfectly equipped to be one of those great empathetic nursing instructors that ruin a good nursing program. Please, don't consider teaching later on down the road.well, what are your options if you quit nursing school? Maybe you can be a checker at Jewel?
Seriously do you know how many people would DIE for this opportunity? You will be a well-respected professional in the hottest job market around. You will get a job any where, with benefits no less. You will have the chance to make a difference in others' lives.
Perhaps you might want to think about starting a gratitude list.
Oct 7, '06Quote from Jules AI felt the same way as you, Jules...nursing school left a sour taste in my mouth that won't go away. I did complete school and am now working as an LPN, but, from my experience, I'd never go back for RN (not that I wanted to in the first place, mind you). In fact, I didn't even attend my own graduation and I was the second highest for grades. I was just that disgusted.Well I felt the exact same way but just tucked my head down and pushed forward. My reflection back was that nursing school was not a good experience for me. It makes me kind of sad because the information was very interesting and I really enjoyed learning however all the disorganization, double standards and political crap really soured me. The good news is that I stuck with it, got great grades and by semester two it really didn't phase me anymore and the best news is that I ended up becoming really close friends with a couple of my classmates.
Listening to all the horror stories makes me feel as if nowhere else was much better so I stuck with where I was and am really proud of finishing. Good luck. Jules
Competition continues once you become a nurse, as well. What I do is just stay out of it to the best of my ability and serve the patients...the reason why I became a nurse to begin with.
Oct 7, '06What this experience will do is determine how interested are you in being a nurse. If you are, you will somehow have to put the negativity to the side. But, if you do decide that you don't want to do this, do not feel guilty. Once you become a nurse, this behavior does continue, unfortunately, and this is something to think about.
I totally empathsize with you because, while I did complete my nursing course and am working, I have to say that I honestly hated nursing school and would never return for an RN program. It is just not worth the headache for me to sit through that again, no matter how much of a money difference it would be and I think I would be even deeper in the mess that happens between nurses. Currently, I am working in a clinic, and I involve myself with the patients and leave the other mess alone.
Oct 7, '06Quote from pyroladyAbsolutely! I am with you on that. I don't think grades correlate with how nice you are, how good you are in clinicals, how good of a nurse you will be, how smart you are or even, incredibly, how good of a student you are (one gal in our class is super smart but gets poor grades because she works full-time and is a single mom -- I don't know how she is passing but she does it!). That was the point of my post, being an A students does not mean you have to be disliked by your classmates.Dear First Year Student: It's great to strive for all "A's". However, when you graduate you take the same board that everyone does, and I've never applied for a position where they asked my grade point. I heard an old saying once - "What do they call an RN with a "C" average?" The answer: An RN. The good grades will always hold you in good stead, hopefully you will remember it all, but a lot of great nurses had lower averages in school and great in hands on clinicals.
But I can see the point of the poster who I responded to -- learning is the priority here, not socializing.
I will say, however, that sometimes people believe that there is a split between good classroom students who are poor clinical students and poor classroom students who are good clinical students. I do see this, but also plenty of students who are good overall or bad overall...