Grades from school to school....

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    I don't know if other see it or not but I find it interesting that sometimes people post here that they got 100 or their average is a 98...in nursing courses.

    I find it interesting because nobody in my program comes close to that. I know we don't have a group of idiots.

    It made me think and wonder how this happens. I honestly think it's a difference of difficulty and/or test creation. Now here's the problem...if an employer wants to see your grades and you went to a school where nobody ever saw grades like that and your competition was somebody who got 100...they probably don't have the ability to take into account that it's possible the person with the lower grade got a higher education, a more challenging education and that the grades can't be compared from one school to the next.

    Just something I find interesting because it really becomes an uneven playing field in the end.
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    I am sure grading standards very from school to school. In the long run, what matters is that you pass the NCLEX. I have never heard of employers asking to see grades from school, but that is just me.
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    I don't believe employers can ask for specific grade info, for the very same reasons in your post. I remember my DON of nursing school also telling us that was the reason that NCLEX was changed from specific grades to just "pass/fail". To make it fair for everybody.
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    I think it doesn't matter when it comes to employers, but it does matter when you are trying to transfer to another college. For someone with an associates degree trying to get an bachelors, for instance.
    It will make a difference if your minimum passing grade at your CC was 78%or 74%. And of course if you could get an A with 90% or 92%.
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    Quote from mysterious_one
    I think it doesn't matter when it comes to employers, but it does matter when you are trying to transfer to another college. For someone with an associates degree trying to get an bachelors, for instance.
    It will make a difference if your minimum passing grade at your CC was 78%or 74%. And of course if you could get an A with 90% or 92%.

    I think that's more of what I was thinking of...put it out there wrong. That and scholarships. A good portion of the people in my class have an average below 85. Our tests are hard. In fact the last test a few people (ones with the better grades) commented that it seemed like they were trying to fail us. The test was insane. I was telling my mom (a nurse, NP and CNM...so she's been through it and then some) about some of these tests and she's a little shocked even.

    Now we don't loose a lot of people. So that's a good thing. Grades are not impressive and I know it's not that we are idiots. We have some very bright people in the class.

    I was telling my mom that sometimes I hear grades from other schools and I feel like telling them to come to mine because I feel like there's no way they would get that same grade. My school doesn't have high grades...but a pretty darn good NCLEX pass rate...and I heard that for a hospital based program it's popular. I know at an open house that I helped with we had people from other states looking to come in. The grades are just rough.
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    My professor sent us an e-mail when she posted the grades for our last pharm test: "Great job! Class average was a 79!" 75 is passing at my school. I got 100 on the same exam, and no it wasn't easy. I just studied my rear end off and I think I understand how to answer NCLEX-style questions so far - at least the way this particular instructor phrases them. I walked out and there were 9 questions out of 60 where I had it down to 2 choices, but apparently I chose right.
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    Quote from SAHStudent
    I don't know if other see it or not but I find it interesting that sometimes people post here that they got 100 or their average is a 98...in nursing courses.

    I find it interesting because nobody in my program comes close to that. I know we don't have a group of idiots.

    It made me think and wonder how this happens. I honestly think it's a difference of difficulty and/or test creation. Now here's the problem...if an employer wants to see your grades and you went to a school where nobody ever saw grades like that and your competition was somebody who got 100...they probably don't have the ability to take into account that it's possible the person with the lower grade got a higher education, a more challenging education and that the grades can't be compared from one school to the next.

    Just something I find interesting because it really becomes an uneven playing field in the end.

    If it makes you feel any better, no employer is going to ask to see what your grades were. Irrelevant. What IS relevant is the fact that you graduated and passed the licensing exam. Perhaps, just perhaps, if you're applying for a GN position and the employer is weighing several applications from different schools (also all for GNs) then perhaps she'd look at the likelihood of each candidate's success on the NCLEX (if she was familiar with the different schools, which they usually are if you're going to apply to facilities near where you schooled). And that is because School A is known to be a miserable tough program but turns out a high passing average for NCLEX, and School B is known for more Phi Beta Kappas but lower returns on that licensing exam.

    I say this because I went to one of those miserable tough schools where Cs were considered good, Bs REALLY good, and if you got an A: you were the bomb that day. Or week. Or month, lol. And then there were those who failed academically from my school who went to School B in the region, and not only passed but GOT those A's. Did they become geniuses? Did they thrive in a "better" educational environment? Hogwash: the assignments and testing was easier, plain and simple. I met up with people who had this experience, failed my classes and got A's at the other school. The other school's first-time pass rate on NCLEX, however, showed the difference in our educations.

    I also happen to know that graduates from that "other" school are usually asked alot of role-playing and "what would you do" scenario questions at interviews. NONE of my classmates were. Told me something there, too.
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    I don't think what you're seeing here are averages....you're seeing the exception rather than rule. At my school, a test "average" for our class might be 82.5, but there's this same one or two who score well in to the high 90's and there was at least one that got 100 on a test this semester.

    I personally, tend to score right at or just above the average. I have a few friends who consistently score below average and have had a test or two that was below.

    I never felt like what I was reading on these boards were classrooms of students getting 90's and 100. I would be a little surprised to find that there were schools generating classes full of these scores AND still had high NCLEX-pass rates!!
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    I went to my PRN day at school. The instructor told us that in the last second semester nursing class- there were no A's. None- nada- she said she just tells students to concentrate on passing- oh and an A is 93 or above. To pass you need a 75%. She told us if we were used to getting A"s in other classes- don't expect it here. Which is me- I have gotten A's in all my sciences with just a few hours studying the day of the test- apparently that is not going to happen in my nursing school.
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    I got a 94-96 average in both Nursing I(fundamentals) and Nursing II(Med-Surg I) 92-100 is an A at my school, ALL of our exams have NCLEX type questions on them from the start, We have great lecture teachers but they tell us from the beginning just because they don't go over something in lecture does not mean we are not responsible for knowing it and it may be on tests so we have to read and research on top of lecture.

    I know that with how hard i work i could do this good at ANY school !!!
    And I'm sure most other people could no matter what school they went to


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