Forced wearing of nursing cap. - page 4

I'm a senior registered nursing student and our school has a pinning ceremony to mark the completion of our program. Our class contains about 20% men, equal split of black and white in both... Read More

  1. Visit  Guttercat profile page
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    Quote from GrnTea
    Of course not.

    But this is not sex discrimination. You are not being denied any of the facilities or opportunities of your educational program based on your gender. A photograph doesn't meet that standard. Care to play again?

    Well then by that argument she can show up for the photograph in a cap, and a jockstrap worn on the outside.

    Mandating all females wear a cap or they will be excluded, is sex discrimination.

    Care to play again?
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  2. Visit  DoGoodThenGo profile page
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    Quote from AZO49008
    Oh good grief. This comes up every year. They need to just get rid of the caps, period. News flash: it's almost 2013. Nobody wears them EVER in practice so why some people get so strung out on the whole cap thing I'll never know. I'm a guy though so maybe there's something about it I don't get. That being said, I would chose to not participate.
    Hang on to your cap (or hat) because that blanket statement about nurses (RN and LPN) not wearing caps in practice *EVER* is just not true.

    Maybe not where you work but there are still quite a few nurses who wear caps on duty and not just for Nurse's Week either.

    Kays Caps does a good business and not just for graduations and or Halloween either. Then there is the fact caps can go for *BIG* money on places like eBay. Find it hard to believe someone would pay $$$ for something they were going to chuck into a drawer. Collectors yes, but not many others.
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  3. Visit  FDW630 profile page
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    Quote from Guttercat

    Well then by that argument she can show up for the photograph in a cap, and a jockstrap worn on the outside.

    Mandating all females wear a cap or they will be excluded, is sex discrimination.

    Care to play again?
    Seeing as how the cap is part of a female uniform, it really isn't sexual discrimination. A guy wearing the cap would be about like OP wearing a jock strap. Should they make men wear stockings too? I hate stockings as much as anyone, but making women in a group wear them but not men is not discrimination either.

    OP, if this is the biggest fish you have to fry, you need to try a new pond. It sucks to be on the losing end of a vote, but majority rules. See past the cap and just celebrate your great accomplishment with those who went through it with you! Congrats on the hard work.
  4. Visit  3aremyjoy profile page
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    Quote from FDW630

    OP, if this is the biggest fish you have to fry, you need to try a new pond. It sucks to be on the losing end of a vote, but majority rules. See past the cap and just celebrate your great accomplishment with those who went through it with you! Congrats on the hard work.
    Best statement I have seen yet!
    I understand this isn't something you would personally choose to wear. But these are your classmates that you have spent the last few years working along side. Suffering together, worrying together. They are your team! You're embarking on an occupation that is based on team work. Show yourself to be a team player, put on that hat (with pride of the amazing nurses that have helped pave this way for you) and attend your pinning ceremony. You've worked so hard to earn this moment. Don't let a hat stand in the way of your moment!
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  5. Visit  nursel56 profile page
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    Sounds like a lot of people are saying that anytime there is a separate dress code for men and women it's discrimination. What if some of the women didn't want to wear scrub pants with their cap, or one of the guys wanted to wear a skirt? I know that sounds silly on the surface, but when you associate articles of dress with discrimination of any sort you open that door. It was probably a dumb idea to let the class vote on it because a cap with scrubs is going to look really incongruous, and white scrubs flatter just about nobody.
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  6. Visit  nguyency77 profile page
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    Oh, for goodness' sake... Just wear it.
    Last edit by nguyency77 on Dec 12, '12
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  7. Visit  BlueDevil,DNP profile page
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    Quote from DoGoodThenGo
    Male nurses do not wear caps because they are part of female uniform. It wouldn't occur to most normal hetrosexual (sic) male nurses to wear a cap no more than they would skirts, nylons and high heels.
    Hey, I resemble that remark. (see avatar)
  8. Visit  nguyency77 profile page
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    @BlueDevil, DNP: I was really thinking of your avatar when someone said that men don't wear nursing caps!
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  9. Visit  qualityangel profile page
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    Quote from DoGoodThenGo
    Oh for goodness sake.

    The OP has several options open to her:

    1. Refuse to wear the cap *and* take her place at the ceremony, basically threatening the powers that be to take action.

    2. Do not attend the ceremony on principle or whatever reason she chooses.

    3. Suck it up and wear the darn thing, it will only be less than two hours out of nursing career that will span decades (hopefully), and then she can do what countless other grads have; take the cap off and chuck it into a closet/drawer never to see the light of day again.

    One assumes this matter was discussed at length before the vote was taken and therefore the OP was given ample time along with others to express her views and or objections. If the majority won the day you can be sure they aren't going to look too fondly upon a *rebel* looking to spoil their special day.
    I do agree that this is discrimination. We had the same thing at our LPN pinning. However, going to the ceremony as a "rebel" will not do anything to advance your career. You will be seen as not a team player and if you ever want your nursing instructors/director to give you a recommendation, I would avoid doing this-it will come back to haunt you. Yes, it is very political and for just one day, you can play their game-or not go at all. Trust me, the minute the ceremony is over, it won't seem like such a big deal. Play the game or don't play the game but don't "burn bridges" that you may need later on. If I had caused a big deal at my LPN graduation, I can guarantee you that I would not have received good recommendations for RN school. Your choice.
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  10. Visit  hlj123 profile page
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    I think it's foolish to wear the cap without the dress. Haha, but I think nurses should still dress like that! So I may not be a good judge lol!
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  11. Visit  jeannepaul profile page
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    I would not wear it, I would not go. Luckily, we did not have a pinning ceremony. I wore a cap and gown to my graduation, walked across the stage, received my BSN and that was enough. I don't think I would have went to nursing school if there was a posiblilty I would have to wear a hat like that, unless everyone in the hospital had to do it including the doctors, techs, management.

    I wore a hat in the military, but everyone had to wear one, not just the females.
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  12. Visit  BlueDevil,DNP profile page
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    When I graduated the women were required to wear white dresses, white hose and white shoes and caps, and the men were required to wear white pants and white shirts, with black shoes. We walked in a Cathedral, and believe me, if anyone had showed up improperly dressed, they would have been sent home. Everyone complied, and I still have the photo.

    None of this is discrimination, and I think some of you fail to understand the meaning of the word.

    OP, I think 3aremyjoy said it most eloquently. Take pride in your accomplishment and proudly don your cap and celebrate with your classmates. It is an inconsequential matter and you will treasure that photo for the rest of your career, and it will surely bring many smiles to your face. You will shake your head in in disbelief that you even considered not attending over something so trivial.

    Congratulations.
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  13. Visit  brillohead profile page
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    Quote from DoGoodThenGo
    We happen to live in a democracy, if a vote was held and a majority of the class wishes to wear a cap at graduation in theory that is that. It is not being "forced" by the school but they are following the will of the larger body of graduating students who expressed their views.
    I'm reminded of the old maternal saying, "If your friends jumped off the Brooklyn Bridge, would you do it too?"

    What if the majority voted that everyone should wear bikinis? Or go naked? Just because the majority voted for something doesn't mean it's a good/necessary thing to do, or that it is appropriate for everyone.

    If there is a Muslim woman in the class, would she be allowed to wear a traditional headcovering? Would she be required to wear a nursing cap over the top, or exempted from the rule?

    Quote from DoGoodThenGo
    Since nurse's caps fall under female attire much would depend upon the facilities dress code policy regarding transvestitism. If you wear just the cap administration may ask you to take it off, then again if you plan on wearing *starched whites* including skirts and hose then things may get a bit tricky.
    Actually, if they wear just the cap, they might be a bit chilly....
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