Forced wearing of nursing cap. - page 7

by onetiredstudent | 23,076 Views | 253 Comments

I'm a senior registered nursing student and our school has a pinning ceremony to mark the completion of our program. Our class contains about 20% men, equal split of black and white in both genders. I am approaching 50 and... Read More


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    Curious if the male students, who were NOT affected, had a vote in the matter?
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    This hasn't been my experience, but I would not want to wear the cap either. As El mentioned, if you are going to don the cap, that involves head to toe whites, not just the cap itself. Otherwise, that's pointless, and scrubs with a cap would look odd. I suppose if you want to participate in the ceremony, you'll have to go with their expectations.
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    Quote from BlueDevil,DNP
    I think some of you fail to understand the meaning of the word.
    Apparently so:
    Quote from MrChicagoRN
    When I earned both my bachelors and then my Masters, in order to participate in the ceremonies, I was forced to wear a mortarboard and a gown that I've never worn since!


    Was I discriminated against??? :-)
    When there are different rules based on your genitalia, it is discrimination. Making women wear hosiery or a skirt based only on the fact that they have a vagina rather than a penis? Also DISCRIMINATION.
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    Quote from brillohead
    I'm reminded of the old maternal saying, "If your friends jumped off the Brooklyn Bridge, would you do it too?"

    What if the majority voted that everyone should wear bikinis? Or go naked? Just because the majority voted for something doesn't mean it's a good/necessary thing to do, or that it is appropriate for everyone.

    If there is a Muslim woman in the class, would she be allowed to wear a traditional headcovering? Would she be required to wear a nursing cap over the top, or exempted from the rule?



    Actually, if they wear just the cap, they might be a bit chilly....
    That is not the same thing and you know it.

    There is a world of difference between engaging in dangerous and or criminal behaviour simply to follow a crowd versus the results of a democratic vote regarding a group function.

    What then do you say to those who held the ballot in the first place? What is the point of going through the thing if persons aren't going to abide by the results simply because it rubs them the wrong way.
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    Quote from wooh
    Apparently so:


    When there are different rules based on your genitalia, it is discrimination. Making women wear hosiery or a skirt based only on the fact that they have a vagina rather than a penis? Also DISCRIMINATION.
    Didn't want to go there but it has nothing to with what is between one's legs, but the perceived and or gender a person chooses to associate with.

    Know via friends several non-op MTF transgender *women* who not only attended nursing programs but graduated and have or continue to wear caps.
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    Quote from ♪♫ in my ♥
    Au contraire. I've actually seen two nurses who wear them...

    Granted, hardly ever... but the absolute is incorrect.

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    OP, the class voted on what they want for the pinning. At this point, you've one of three choices:

    1) Lighten up and go along with the group

    2) Forego the pinning

    3) Ignore the 'requirement' and simply show up and let the chips fall where they may.
    No one wears caps anymore?

    Pipe: Nurse caps a 40-year career at Maryview Hospital | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com
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    Quote from wooh
    Apparently so:


    When there are different rules based on your genitalia, it is discrimination. Making women wear hosiery or a skirt based only on the fact that they have a vagina rather than a penis? Also DISCRIMINATION.
    Court cases have been all over the place when it comes to complying with Title VII, however it can be said absent some pretty strong reasons gender specific dress codes are asking for a court case.

    In the OP's particular instance the school did not make the decision but the students themselves via majority vote. Since the event has not yet occured nor is it entirely clear she would be stopped from attending graduation if she didn't wear the cap, not sure how the OP has been harmed.

    Sex-Stereotyping and Dress Codes Under Title VII: Why Courts Can't Get it Right
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    Quote from hlj123
    I think it's foolish to wear the cap without the dress. Haha, but I think nurses should still dress like that! So I may not be a good judge lol!
    By the 1970's when laws and court rulings changed dress codes/uniforms for women mandatory skirt/dress requirements for both female workers and college/university students went out the window.

    You can look through many images, television shows and or speak to nurses who worked then to find out quite allot jumped into pantsuit "whites" and or separates long before caps started to be discarded.

    Even by the 1980's or so most nursing programs offered female student nurses a choice of a uniform with pants or dress, but by and large caps remained well into the 1990's.
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    You could look at it two ways, you can think that it is gender discriminatory or you can look at it in the way that this is a universal symbol of the nursing profession. In this way you can be proud of wearing it without thinking that is shows bias to your gender. I do hope that you would realize it is not only about the gender but the symbol the cap symbolizes for the whole nursing community.
    Conqueror+ and mobynmom like this.
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    Okay, I have to chime in..... We women all wore caps for grad, the guys in my class (6 of them) did not. All the ladies paid an extra $5 in fees that year for the cap. The guys decided THEY were being discriminated against becasue we all got caps and they didn't. At least one of them went to the registrar and said he wanted a cap too. He was told that he could have one but he couldn't pick it up until after the grad ceremony because they were sure he would wear it (they were right....). Every one of the guys in my class had at least one grad photo taken with the cap on and holding the bouquet of roses same as us. Just makes me chuckle, we didn't think anything of wearing them, but the guys were not pleased that they weren't allowed to!
    Fiona59, echoRNC711, Orange Tree, and 1 other like this.


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