Forced wearing of nursing cap. - page 18

by onetiredstudent

I'm a senior registered nursing student and our school has a pinning ceremony to mark the completion of our program. Our class contains about 20% men, equal split of black and white in both genders. I am approaching 50 and... Read More


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    Quote from joanna73
    I'm still not in favour of wearing one. I've always been more of a tomboy, so that is part of my reason. .

    I look terrrible in hats! That's my real reason.
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    More than 1/2 in my class wanted to wear the hat. We weren't given an option. We didnt wear hats . So I went online and bought one for myself!! I'm going to get pro pics taken with it on.
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    Quote from workingharder
    Traditions are a way to tie the past to the present. In the field of nursing, the pinning ceremony and caps are an acknowledgement of the generations who founded and grew the profession. If I were female, I would go along with the desire of the majority. It's a small thing, it does no harm, and it's a bit of a salute to those who created the job you're embarking on.
    I like this answer the best.
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    Everybody's personal choices should be respected no matter what, you should not be excluded from celebrating your success because you choose not to wear a cap that the majority agree on. It seems very appalling for this to happen, and I hope they agree to allow you to attend without wearing it. personally I love the idea of wearing it, and I would be so proud to wear it, but it's only fair that individuals can choose!
    Last edit by student Nurse Kirsty on Dec 18, '12
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    Quote from student Nurse Kirsty
    Everybody's personal choices should be respected no matter what, you should not be excluded from celebrating your success because you choose not to wear a cap that the majority agree on. It seems very appalling for this to happen, and I hope they agree to allow you to attend without wearing it. personally I love the idea of wearing it, and I would be so proud to wear it, but it's only fair that individuals can choose!
    What if your personal choice is that you would rather not wear appropriate clothing to clinical? Should you be allowed to attend?

    In my opinion:
    Sometimes it is not possible to respect everyone's personal choices. And to claim sexism because you were simply in the minority isn't appropriate.
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    Quote from de2013

    What if your personal choice is that you would rather not wear appropriate clothing to clinical? Should you be allowed to attend?

    In my opinion:
    Sometimes it is not possible to respect everyone's personal choices. And to claim sexism because you were simply in the minority isn't appropriate.
    Well obviously its not possible for really important things like uniform for clinical, but it's not that important for a ceremony if guys don't have to wear them
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    Quote from student Nurse Kirsty

    Well obviously its not possible for really important things like uniform for clinical, but it's not that important for a ceremony if guys don't have to wear them
    Most Men don't wear stockings and dresses either, so is it sexist if we aren't required to a dress and stockings for pinning?
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    Quote from student Nurse Kirsty
    Everybody's personal choices should be respected no matter what, you should not be excluded from celebrating your success because you choose not to wear a cap that the majority agree on. It seems very appalling for this to happen, and I hope they agree to allow you to attend without wearing it. personally I love the idea of wearing it, and I would be so proud to wear it, but it's only fair that individuals can choose!
    With all due respect one disagrees. No everyone does not have the right to have their *personal* choices respected all of the time. Indeed IMHO that is what is wrong with this modern age. We now have one, two or more generations raised to believe that everything must be their way or the highway.

    Case in point know several mothers for who meal times resemble something out of a cafeteria or restaurant. They do not plan meals but take polls and then make dish "X" for that child, dish "Y" for this and "Z" for husband all because their personal wishes must be respected. My mother made dinner, you ate what was served or went without.

    Yes, everyone may have some sort of rights to have their opinions and or wishes heard, but part of any great society or democracy means sucking it up when things do go your way and move with the majority for the greater good.
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    Quote from jadelpn
    I am floored at how many people continue to say "just wear the thing". The bottom line to all of this is the OP felt strongly enough about her belief system, her gender identification, her thought process in the history of the hat for female nurses in a "chaste" role, to ask if it was disctiminatory. As noted above, it not only is the epitome of discrimination, but allowed at a school that accepts federal funding. A nursing hat is not a reflection of anything other than a tradition that is not reflective of most nurses practice. Remember, this is an older student in her second career, so perhaps her thought process is far different than that of a younger student fresh out of high school, or a nurse from "back in the day" that did not have life experience to realize for some, this is a female outward sign of what some could consider subsurvient. We need to support each other in the right to be able to have a choice.
    We all understand that but as mother would say "not everything is always about *you*".

    No one forced the OP to attend nursing school and by joining a group by nature one has to give and take. The school upon application by it's students held a vote, and the majority won. Again what is the bloody point of that whole exercise if persons are going to whinge six ways from Sunday to wiggle out of the democratic outcome.

    Today the OP has a problem wearing a cap for graduation, tomorrow it will be not wanting to wear whatever colour scrubs or uniform nurses in her department/unit/facility votes to wear.
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    Quote from wooh
    So if the class voted that all black people in the class had to stand in the back, would we just tell a black person, "Your class voted, you lost."
    Wow. This is such gross misrepresentation of the situation that part of me hopes it was a sarcastic remark made to draw attention to the ludicrous comparison between wearing a hat and sexism.

    Now let me fix it for you:

    So if the class voted that all people in the class WEARING BLACK had to stand in the back, would we just tell a person WEARING BLACK, "Your class voted, you lost."

    An FYI, myself and the two other guys in my graduating grad school class were asked to stand in the back corner of the ceremony. None of us claimed sexism.


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