Dwindling class members? - page 2

How many class mates of yours have dropped out so far? We started with 120 in May , we are now down to 93 to date. :eek:... Read More

  1. by   Momto3andNurse2B
    We started 8/22 with 42, and 12 passed the first class.
  2. by   Race Mom
    Ouch!!!





  3. by   CseMgr1
    My class started out with 120......46 graduated. It separated the women from the girls, that's for sure!
  4. by   LeesieBug
    Surprisingly, we seem to have lost more somewhere along the way through second year than first.

    We started with 140, lost just a few first year, added some LPN to BSN students during junior year, which took our numbers back up to 140. This year I noticed that next (final) semester there are only 100 slots open to register for our classes, so apparently quite a few got stuck in the junior year.

    Not TOO bad I don't think....most of the people I know that dropped at the beginning did so because they just didn't think nursing was going to be their thing. Junior year there was a lot of flunking classes going around.
  5. by   klone
    We lose a handful and gain a handful every semester. At the beginning of this semester we were at the same net amount as when we all started a year ago (although some faces are different - we especially gained a lot of LPN/RN bridge students - probably about five). However, I know of at least two people who have dropped out in the past month, and I expect we will lose a few more at the end of third semester with grades. Last spring we heard a rumor that the 4th semester students were having a hard time - about 5 had dropped prior to the final (because it would have been mathematically impossible to pass the course) and another half dozen were on academic probation going into the final exam.

    Our class is approximately 50.
  6. by   EmilyCCRN
    We started with 40 and we're currently down to 30 students. We graduate in June, so hopefully we won't lose any more people since we're so close to the end.
  7. by   following_faith
    Quote from tx2007
    Wow we started with 30 and are down to 28 right now, I suspect more will be gone by next semester though.
    That sounds a lot like my class. I think once we get into med-surg and pharm, we will lose at least 10. They are not going to be prepared because of all the stuff from this half. They spend most of their time complaining about how hard everything is and try to argue out of tests and bad grades, and they are not learning anything! I don't want to see anyone fail-but it's like they just don't take it seriously!
  8. by   1Tulip
    Years ago (before the flood) our class started with 45. About half graduated. There were 4 nsg. schools in that city and a 50% drop out rate was about average. (Often, it was people deciding, once they saw what the job was like, that they really didn't want to be nurses. They changed majors. So it wasn't like everyone failed.) However, we did have 100% pass the boards on their first try, so maybe the rigor of the program paid off.
  9. by   luckylady68
    My class started Fall 2004 with 84 RN students. One year later...we're down to 43, and no guarantee that all 43 will make it until May 2006. Best of luck to all.
  10. by   1Tulip
    Whoa! That's a little too extreme. At some level, when you see a "mortality" rate that high, you have to look for some failures in the system and faculty.

    Maybe they are not sufficiently discriminating in who they admit to their program. Are you in a private (i.e., tuition driven) college? In this circumstance , there may be pressure to accept people who canNOT make it because, frankly, they need the tuition dollars.

    OR, the faculty is setting unrealistic standards for who they retain. (Why they would be misguided in this way, I can't imagine. I have seen students who are failed for vague reasons like... (s)he is not "professional" enough, whatever that means. Whenever I've seen this, it's because some faculty member has their head up their ___ and their fellow faculty members won't call them on it.)

    OR the school is admitting the right kind of student, the curriculum and expectations are appropriate and the faculty just can't teach.

    But something is wrong when a heavy majority of a beginning nursing class are flunked out before graduation.

    How do graduates from you college do on their boards? Are there any other obvious problems in the school? What is faculty turnover like?

    Something seems wrong here.
  11. by   RNinJune2007
    Quote from 1Tulip
    Whoa! That's a little too extreme. At some level, when you see a "mortality" rate that high, you have to look for some failures in the system and faculty.

    Maybe they are not sufficiently discriminating in who they admit to their program. Are you in a private (i.e., tuition driven) college? In this circumstance , there may be pressure to accept people who canNOT make it because, frankly, they need the tuition dollars.

    OR, the faculty is setting unrealistic standards for who they retain. (Why they would be misguided in this way, I can't imagine. I have seen students who are failed for vague reasons like... (s)he is not "professional" enough, whatever that means. Whenever I've seen this, it's because some faculty member has their head up their ___ and their fellow faculty members won't call them on it.)

    OR the school is admitting the right kind of student, the curriculum and expectations are appropriate and the faculty just can't teach.

    But something is wrong when a heavy majority of a beginning nursing class are flunked out before graduation.

    How do graduates from you college do on their boards? Are there any other obvious problems in the school? What is faculty turnover like?

    Something seems wrong here.
    I don't know who exactly you're asking, but a majority of the people on here lose most of their classmates by graduation, so maybe you're asking everyone?

    I am only in 1000 (first semester of 5), but, I already know my school is AWESOME!!!! The teachers, upperclassmen, and all other faculty are so tight knit. At full capacity, the school takes on 120 students. Like I stated before in this thread, my school starts with about 45 in fundamentals. By the time graduation rolls around 18 months later, there are 10-15 students remaining.

    Now, this is not because of teachers "kicking" them out, or anything like you make it sound. Many people take a leave of absence, or decide nursing is not for them (especially in the beginning... we have lost over 5 people from our original 45 already due to that.)
    Our NCLEX pass rate is close to 100% (there is usually about one student who has to retake).

    so, obviously in nursing school there are many more factors included than the teachers setting unrealistic standards. In our school C=RN, and if you can not maintain an 80 G.P.A you are gone at the end of the semester. It's understood, accepted and agreed with by the majority of the students.
  12. by   1Tulip
    Guess I was responding to Luckylady68 and her observation that they'd already lost about half of their members and there was no guarentee any of the remaining members would make it to the end.

    You're right. We had some folks in my class who decided nsg. wasn't for them. In view of the fact that there is such competition for seats in most nursing schools, it would be ideal if schools could get a measure of the seriousness of intent and (uh, how to say this...) realism of vision ? of each person they admit. Does the candidate know what they're getting into? So, even when a student doesn't "fail" (just drops out or changes majors), it's a failure for the system because some other candidate is wasting time in elementary ed when they really would have done well in nursing and stuck with it.

    I mean no criticism for your school and it sounds like it's top flight. But there really are costs, to the individual and the school and even society at large when we lose so many nurses so early in the game.

    Just an observation.
  13. by   clfewtrn
    We have 83 in our class that started in August and at least 3 have dropped and looking at maybe 10 failing out first semester. We all know who is not making the grade in lecture and clinicals its just sooooo easy to pick out their assessments aren't done and try to hang an IV drip without a watch. Go figure. This is the biggest class they have had in a long time. 435 applied and 83 made the grade. I'm hanging in there. Grades are there in clinicals lecture is tough but I'm keeping my self up there. I have a % that I WILL DROP below. We've had 4 exams and I know people who have failed all four and have 6 to go and it's only getting harder.

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