Drexel ACE - page 3

Long time lurker, first time poster here. Changing careers from nonprofit fundraising to nursing. I've been interested in health and medicine since my first boyfriend (a med student) gave me... Read More

  1. by   targa
    Charley, first... I responded to your private message. I hope you find the info to be helpful.

    Second, you may want to consider Pitt. If you've never been to Pittsburgh, you would be shocked to find a quite beautiful, clean city with an economy based on medicine, high tech, and education. There are no steel mills anymore. There are abundant cultural opportunities, and the cost of living is extremely low. Also, since you are a PA resident and Pitt is a "state-related" school, the tuition will be lower than some of the other places you are considering.

    Pitt itself has a highly regarded nursing program. The Pitt Medical Center is one of the finest in the country, with an internationally known transplant program. I suspect that student clinical opportunities are abundant and extremely valuable. So DO consider Pitt, and try to make a visit (I went to law school there). I would live in Pgh over Philly in a heartbeat.
  2. by   charleybarley
    Thank you! And you are right- I should at least visit the city and check out the schools and town. Who knows- maybe I'll like it so much and won't ever want to go back home! I will definitely look into it more!
  3. by   piper_for_hire
    Beware of first impressions. The ACE program is many things but one thing that it is not is organized. Be prepared for exactly the opposite. If you can deal with absolute chaos - then you'll be fine in the program. But if you are expecting the syllabus to match the actual course requirements or for the exams to be related to the stuff you learn in class, you're in for some surprises. The program is very doable though, despite the rampant chaos.

    I'm not sure what you are saying about the clinicals. They don't vary from week to week. You'll have principals clinical in the first quarter; OB, med/surg and psych in the second; peds, med/surg and community in the third and critical care and gero in the 4th.

    51 days to go ....

    -S


    Quote from ER1010
    As far as the program goes, they seem to be pretty organized, and I liked everyone I met at the info session, including the director. However, I heard that the drexel hospital, hanneman is so-so, and i don't like the fact that they didn't used to have higher standards, because the reputation may have suffered (i don't know). Also, they do a weird thing with clinicals where you don't stay with one specialty for a few weeks. You might have peds one day, the next day geriatrics, and another day the same week have med-surg.

    Liz
  4. by   ER1010
    Thanks for the clarification piper. I heard the rotating schedule thing from a student, not drexel, so i should have been more clear.
  5. by   nikegoddess
    Hi PlanetCaroline!

    I'm on the 2nd quarter of the ACE program at Drexel. It is not easy but it's doable. The first quarter was okay. A handful of people disappeared (dropped out by the 2nd week and then some had to wait for 6 months to repeat the course that they failed). I get frustrated oftentimes, but it seems to me that we are being prepared for the NCLEX. Drexel bought Hahnemann and they have a 100% NCLEX passing (better than Jefferson & UPenn). It's tough but it's only 11 months. If you're used to getting As & Bs, it is not impossible to get occasional Cs. So be prepared.

    We only had to wear uniform during clinical. It's the typical white pants, plain white shoes (you can buy Nursing shoes but plain white sneakers are allowed), and yellow polo shirt with the blue dragon (and "Drexel ACE") embroidered on the right of the chest, plus a white coat (don't buy the long coat, you only need one coat!). Your stethoscope, sphygmo, & PDA are to be given to you on your orientation day. Save money! Don't expect your reimbursement check to arrive on time. They're almost always late.

    I guess that's it for now. Good luck!

    Quote from PlanetCaroline
    Long time lurker, first time poster here. Changing careers from nonprofit fundraising to nursing.

    I've been interested in health and medicine since my first boyfriend (a med student) gave me The House of God. Kind of dated with its attitudes toward women, but I loved it. Since then I've read every medical & nursing memoir I could find--three times.

    One day, I realized that instead of reading about this stuff, I could go back to school. :roll

    I'm going into Drexel U's accelerated BSN program this fall. I'm looking for anyone with first or second-hand knowledge of the program. I have a bunch of questions & can't contain my excitement. We did have an info session in March, but I did not meet any current students so I didn't get the inside scoop. Besides I don't feel comfortable asking certain questions (eg. are the uniforms hideous? or are there any bad classes?)

    Btw I love this forum. I don't know any other nursing students, so you have been my virtual community. Thanks.
  6. by   piper_for_hire
    Don't believe the hype. The ACE program does NOT have a 100% passing rate on the NCLEX. It's in the 90's but not 100.

    39 days till graduation ....

    -S
  7. by   nikegoddess
    Quote from piper_for_hire
    Don't believe the hype. The ACE program does NOT have a 100% passing rate on the NCLEX. It's in the 90's but not 100.

    39 days till graduation ....

    -S

    Oops! That's what the dean told us... forget it.

  8. by   ldmerkel
    Nike-
    Hi! I'm about to begin my 2nd quarter and i am pretty darn scared. By counting on my fingers, you should be just about to enter your 4th quarter, right? SO- are the rumors true..? Is Pharm as impossible as folks say.. and the cause for students failing out? How on earth do you manage the final schedule with taking a HESI and final in the same day and some on back to back days... ? I got much better grades in 1st quarter than I expected.. Will this be the last 'A' I see in this program? haha.. If you can tell me one thing you liked about 2nd and 3rd (bc i assume the chaotic schedules will be similar) along with the awful truth, that would be great.. but if all that exists is awful truth, than so be it.. I just hope the times flies.. hahahaa
    thanks
  9. by   NRSKarenRN
    drexel ace pass rate past 2 years above 98%-- pretty impressive.
    nclex performance - rn
  10. by   piper_for_hire
    It's true that people do fail pharm, take it again, then fail again. But that was just 7 or 8 out of our class. Lots of Cs get handed out. Maternity, Adult III and Senior sem got a lot of people too.

    Pharm is mostly memorization. Here's a hint - DON'T READ THE BOOK. Everything you need to know will be said in lecture. Maybe 1 or 2 questions on the exam from the book - if that. I pretty much took good notes, never studied, crammed the night before and got Bs in Pharm. Hell - you won't have time to study anyway so plan on cramming. Oh - one of the "professors" will put general nursing questions on the exam in addition to pharm questions. Stupid, yes. Cross your fingers and hope you don't get her.

    Remember that you only have to pass the final HESI. All of the other HESIs will count for something like 10% of your grade - so you end up focusing on the actual final exams instead of studying for the HESI itself.

    Most people's grades steadily decline after the 1st quarter - but I did pretty well in the program so who knows. I'm not sure how I did so well since all you really do is guess on those exams anyway. Must be a good guesser ... um ... I guess.

    Hope that helped,
    -S
  11. by   piper_for_hire
    sadly, those numbers are totally misleading. the trick here is that you have to pass the hesi in order to graduate. in other words, you have to pass the nclex-like test in order to get to take the nclex in the first place! so they weed out the bad test takers and then shamefully imply that their educational program is the cause for the high passing rate.

    i mean - why not just claim that all ace graduates can bench press 200 pounds? it' just as arbitrary. all you have to do is fail anyone that can't already bench press 200 pounds in the first place and you're done. shame on them!

    -s

    Quote from nrskarenrn
    drexel ace pass rate past 2 years above 98%-- pretty impressive.
    nclex performance - rn
  12. by   ldmerkel
    Thank you, that IS helpful. Very good tip about Pharm.. I will happily take that advice.. the book just looks like a sleeping pill. We lost 5 people in my section alone by the end of 1st quarter, I'm not sure how many in the other 2 sections, but not as many as us.
    So.. one more thing I am dying to know.. will there be less busy work, bc we will actually be BUSY? But then, I guess the midterm and final will be like 40% & 45% of the grade...oh well, cant win. May I ask what area of nursing you are working in now?
    Thanks very much for getting back to me..
    LM



    OH- and thanks for the link with the NCLEX pass rate stats, NRSKarenRN..! great encouragement!
  13. by   piper_for_hire
    No - the busy work will only get worse - but it will be mixed in with actual work. Just keep going and going and then it will be over. Try to be as organized as you can and take one project at a time. Think managed chaos. If you stop and think about the craziness of it all you'll waste time getting flustered. Just go into attack mode and the 11 weeks will be over before you know it. 2nd and 3rd quarter are like that. 4th quarter is less crazy and you're used to it by then - plus you'll have your job lined up by the 2nd week which does wonders for your perspective.

    I work in the ICU.

    Oh - another tip is to spend no more than 30 minutes on your regular care plans. Trust me - you can do this and still get As on the care plans. Get a good care plan book and just bang it out. Think about it - you can't really get to know a patient without actually assesing them so how accurate will your careplan be anyway? Bang it out and move on.

    -S

    Quote from ldmerkel
    Thank you, that IS helpful. Very good tip about Pharm.. I will happily take that advice.. the book just looks like a sleeping pill. We lost 5 people in my section alone by the end of 1st quarter, I'm not sure how many in the other 2 sections, but not as many as us.
    So.. one more thing I am dying to know.. will there be less busy work, bc we will actually be BUSY? But then, I guess the midterm and final will be like 40% & 45% of the grade...oh well, cant win. May I ask what area of nursing you are working in now?
    Thanks very much for getting back to me..
    LM



    OH- and thanks for the link with the NCLEX pass rate stats, NRSKarenRN..! great encouragement!

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