Disturbing to anyone else???? NEED HELP. - page 7

Last week in our first 4 hour lecture with our Psych instructor (2nd yr NS) she apologized up front if she offends anyone because she is used to letting the "F" word fly and hopes it won't be a... Read More

  1. by   ExTechie
    BIG clarification. Thanks Timothy - it is anticholinergic drugs. I apologize!!! Well, I have taken the majority of your advice and while she reaches new heights in unprofessionalism (especially for a Nurse Practitioner), I am choosing to lay low. Thank you for all of your responses!!!!
  2. by   SillyLilly
    I have the book that has that mnemonic in it. Valuable to me, and yes, that is how i remember anticholinergics!

    Now, in my A&P class....we were taught BY DOCTORS how to remember if the cranial nerve is motor sensory or both: some say mary money but my brother says big breasts matter more.
    Also, for the actual nerves: oh oh oh to touch and feel virgins glossy vagina and hymen. Yep....and Ill tell ya, never forgot them.... He said the dirty they are, the easier they were for him to remember.

    BUT i do not like the F bomb, and I would be disturbed to hear that one in school (not in the real world though, so much) I had a teacher in high school-a catholic private highschool-who would swear, and occasionally say the f-word. Back then it was relieving though to see someone who was not all wound up tight as many of the teachers/admin were.
    Last edit by SillyLilly on Sep 18, '06
  3. by   PedsNurse322
    If you're going to work in healthcare, especially an ER like I do, you'd better get used to lots of "F-bombs" and more!

    Don't sweat the small stuff is what I always say
  4. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from 2008RN2B
    If you're going to work in healthcare, especially an ER like I do, you'd better get used to lots of "F-bombs" and more!

    Don't sweat the small stuff is what I always say
    I don't hear that word at all in the ER where I work. And we would never say it in front of a patient anyway.

    There is a difference in saying it behind closed doors during report with co-workers (although some may still be offended) and saying it as a teacher in front of a class.

    I still believe it is unprofessional. And I'm not "wound up tight".


    steph
  5. by   Tweety
    Steph., I don't think that poster was saying the nurses say it, but the clientele. Working in rural California, your clientele might be more subdued, but where I work, the f-bomb is shouted out occasionally by the clientele in the ER for sure, and the patients on the wards.
  6. by   moomoo111
    I've worked healthcare and the ER for fifteen years as a Paramedic and I've never seen or heard anyone use the "f" word out like that. It's always been where no-one in the public would hear it and I've been on some pretty bad gruesome scenes with just me and my partner around, waiting on help and I've never heard it used out loud. So it can be done. Don't make excuses for someone who does that just because it's "awesome" or "cool". It's inappropriate behavior for someone in that profession. She's not in the ER, she's in the classroom teaching people to be good nurses, not be cool in the classroom by using language that might seem funny, you have to think about your patient's dignity and the families of the patients, not how cool it is to the students in class. Nursing is serious business. Go ahead and do it if you think it's "awesome" or "cool" but once you start doing that and using other words without respect for your co-workers or your patients and their families, it'll bite you in the butt before you know it. So go ahead, knock yourselves out, be cool and awesome and cuss like a sailor in front of everybody, yeah, you'll go real far.
  7. by   PedsNurse322
    Whoa... peace, people... I wasn't suggesting that the eff word is awesome or cool... and I definitely do not think that it should be used by staff in front of patients! But I hear it used in private by docs, RNs, and other med staff a LOT, and it wasn't isolated to one particular hospital that I worked at, either. And you'll hear it from rowdy patients a lot, too. But then, I've worked in Detroit for a long time... so maybe it's different in an urban trauma center? Like I said, I don't agree with that instructor, but if it were me and I thought she was doing a good job teaching, I wouldn't sweat the f-bombs.

    Hope that I've made myself a little more clear now...
  8. by   Altra
    Quote from 2008RN2B
    Whoa... peace, people... I wasn't suggesting that the eff word is awesome or cool... and I definitely do not think that it should be used by staff in front of patients! But I hear it used in private by docs, RNs, and other med staff a LOT, and it wasn't isolated to one particular hospital that I worked at, either. And you'll hear it from rowdy patients a lot, too. But then, I've worked in Detroit for a long time... so maybe it's different in an urban trauma center? Like I said, I don't agree with that instructor, but if it were me and I thought she was doing a good job teaching, I wouldn't sweat the f-bombs.

    Hope that I've made myself a little more clear now...
    I agree ... at work I hear that word several times a day from co-workers, and sometimes several times an hour from patients.

    Other facilities, other settings, other parts of the country ... in some respects can be like other planets.
  9. by   PedsNurse322
    Other facilities, other settings, other parts of the country ... in some respects can be like other planets.
    Exactly!

    In some settings one needs to have a much thicker skin than in others.
  10. by   CANewRN
    Im definatly gonna remember the SE for cholergenic drugs now. An F bomb every once and again is one thing, but every lecture over and over... Might remind me of listening to my drunk friends on the weekends! Just see how it goes and how much F is actually used
  11. by   Ado Annie
    I think it's unprofessional. Simple rules of civility in public life suggest that you shouldn't use foul language in the classroom. But you need your grade. Wait until you get the requisite confidential evaluation form at the end of the course, and then be honest.
  12. by   luv2shopp85
    Quote from ExTechie
    Last week in our first 4 hour lecture with our Psych instructor (2nd yr NS) she apologized up front if she offends anyone because she is used to letting the "F" word fly and hopes it won't be a problem.

    She also told us a simple way to remember the SE for cholinergic drugs:

    Can't See
    Can't Pee
    Can't Spit
    Can't Sh*t.

    Am I being too touchy or is this extremely unprofessional coming from an instructor???

    In addition to that (if that isn't enough), we were told it was against the rules to eat or drink in this classroom that is being loaned to us (by DON). If any of us are caught violating the rules, we can lose the classroom. The first night of instruction, this same instructor was 1/2 hr into her lecture and made the announcement that she cannot teach for 4 hours without water and proceeded to get her drink and brought it to the podium. Now many students are bringing in coffee, pepsi and food. Do I rat??? I am so uncomfortable. Please help.


    an instructor told us this the first semester:
    The cant pee
    cant see
    cant spit
    cant ****

    ANd now everyone knows what anticholinergic drugs will do and we always remember the 4 main SE. I've had instructors that are extremely uptight and i've had instructors that are laid back and cool. I personally like the laid back and cool instructors. My psych instructor i have now will occassionally swear and we all laugh because its usually something funny. I would'nt like an instructor who swore all of the time because it would just get annoying.

    We just had an exam in psych and it was about schizophrenia and a patient who was paraniod and aggressive and who went up to the nurseand said you guys are all out to hurt me, ***** get away from me, and the question asked what would youdo? Nobody said anything about this question and the swear word. I personalyl thought it was funny.
  13. by   Ado Annie
    Well there *are* some people who are so immature that they think it's funny when a 3-year-old swears. I just think it's sad that he's been exposed to that kind of language enough that he uses it.

    The f word in particular is an ugly, ugly word. And using it for little things is like using a cannonball to swat a gnat. Save the big guns of language for big things.

    Don't think I'm too high-and-mighty. I have a dear friend and colleague who cusses up a blue streak, and she's still my dear friend and colleague.

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