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Last week in our first 4 hour lecture with our Psych instructor (2nd yr NS) she apologized up front if she offends anyone because she is used to letting the "F" word fly and hopes it won't be a... Read More

  1. by   pagandeva2000
    Quote from ExTechie
    Last week in our first 4 hour lecture with our Psych instructor (2nd yr NS) she apologized up front if she offends anyone because she is used to letting the "F" word fly and hopes it won't be a problem.

    She also told us a simple way to remember the SE for cholinergic drugs:

    Can't See
    Can't Pee
    Can't Spit
    Can't Sh*t.

    Am I being too touchy or is this extremely unprofessional coming from an instructor???

    In addition to that (if that isn't enough), we were told it was against the rules to eat or drink in this classroom that is being loaned to us (by DON). If any of us are caught violating the rules, we can lose the classroom. The first night of instruction, this same instructor was 1/2 hr into her lecture and made the announcement that she cannot teach for 4 hours without water and proceeded to get her drink and brought it to the podium. Now many students are bringing in coffee, pepsi and food. Do I rat??? I am so uncomfortable. Please help.
    Some students, such as myself, have learned better with crazy sayings such as that. Also, even if it sort of grossed you out, it sounds like you will always remember how SE for cholinergic drugs works, whether you like it or not. It can be hard to sit in class for the evenings especially for those that work without at least a bottle of water. These problems seem light compared to what other professors will put you through...believe me...
  2. by   pagandeva2000
    Quote from CRNASOMEDAY25
    She sounds like fun. It beats sitting listening to a boring teacher for 4 hours. I happen to like all my professors, not because they cuss, but because they keep things light.

    Four hours is a long time to talk without water. Cut her some slack.
    Amen to that!
  3. by   rainy scarlett
    I guess all I can say is she sounds pretty mild in comparison to some of the "colorful" psych patients you are gonna get!! Maybe she is just the warm-up act!!!
  4. by   pagandeva2000
    Quote from rainy scarlett
    I guess all I can say is she sounds pretty mild in comparison to some of the "colorful" psych patients you are gonna get!! Maybe she is just the warm-up act!!!
    Or even some of ANY population of patients! I had a 78 year old 400 pound female CHF patient that cussed like a sailor. I was on orientation to my new position as an LPN and had to walk into the room to medicate her with an RN that was training me. She said to the RN "Oh, today you have back-up, huh, b...tch?" And, when I told her that I had to medicate her she said " I'll kick your black (other word for donkey)...you think you are cute...you MUST be new, because you'll learn not to XXX with me". She then proceeded to cuss me out, and while the timid RN literally ran out of the room, I laughed until I had tears in my eyes! I told the nurse that I can handle her and I told the patient that I had to administer the medication and stay with her until she took it all, and because she was taking digitalis, I had to take an apical pulse. After I did it, she said "Did you like feeling me up?"

    Then, later, I had to insert a foley (for the first time, mind you) in this obese woman, and I was nervous because she cussed worse than any serial killer I could have ever read about and when I finished (did a great job, under the circumstances), she then says "I'll bet you turned into a lesbian playing in my stuff". I smiled and told her to have a nice day, and to call me if she needs me for anything and then she said "You are my kind of B***tch...you ain't scared of nobody". She actually made my day. You will meet all kinds...this professor is the least of your issues compared to some of the others as well as the patients that will be encountered. They will leave you blue in the face unless you have a sense of humor. Ahhh...the day of a nurse will never be boring...
    Last edit by pagandeva2000 on Sep 9, '06
  5. by   mercyteapot
    I don't have a problem with letting the professor know that you object to the ''F'' word, but I do think you should start there, and not go up the chain of command, as some here have suggested, unless she ignores your feelings. And although foods and drinks are against the rules, I would suggest that unless you intend to follow people around with a notepad during your career and writing down their transgressions to report, you just let it go. I can't think of a better way to turn your classmates against you than to be perceived as a tattletale.
  6. by   softstorms
    I agree with llb, pick your battles. I had many teachers and mentors. They all had thier own style. 4 hours of lecture would leave anyone with a need for a drink of water. Don't sweat the small stuff, and this is small stuff.
    Enjoy your journey.
  7. by   pagandeva2000
    <<I can't think of a better way to turn your classmates against you than to be perceived as a tattletale.>>

    That is the truth. In nursing school, the students travel together packed like sardines, and you never know if you may need one of them for ANYTHING...if they believe that they'll be ratted on for something small like bringing food to class, the trust is lost. And, there are the students that will actually set people up out of jealousy, spite and revenge...even to the 'nice' student. I saw so much in nursing school, the pettiness and jealously because someone has nice grades, or those that the professors may favor (out of respect for the student, not from taking sides), etc... Personally, I didn't care for nursing school. I am glad to have completed it, I am doing what I want to do, but I know the other side, and I am glad it is behind me. Pick your battles. If you really feel that the cursing makes you uncomfortable, mention it to the professor privately. She may not change, though...she seems set in her ways, and probably did this for years. I am almost positive that the director of the program has an idea about the behavior of this instructor may not make waves, especially if the majority of the students are passing the class, and eventually passing the boards.
  8. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    I don't see the F word as being a big deal, but that's just me, and i rarely use it myself.

    The food thing, we have a rule at our school about no food and drink, but hey, if i'm coming straight from working 10-12 hours, i AM going to eat (quietly of course) and drink something during class, and if they want to kick me out for that, go right ahead. I'm not going to dehydrate over some stupid rule.


    (OH, yeah, and the reference about profanity being audible ignorance, well i guess i'm just as stupid as they get then :stone )
    Last edit by Marie_LPN, RN on Sep 9, '06
  9. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from Marie_LPN


    (OH, yeah, and the reference about profanity being audible ignorance, well i guess i'm just as stupid as they get then :stone )
    Marie - grandma also told me "Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?".

    I take the reference to "ignorance made audible" to mean what I think when I hear teens using profanity like "F" in a sentence about 5 times. It does actually seem like they cannot pull together one sentence without cussing and that does actually sound ignorant.

    I doubt it is meant for those of us who occasionally slip and use profanity. Heck, grandma used to slip up too. One of the ways she tried not to cuss was to change the word . . . like the "S" word changed to "sugarfoot".

    My grandma was from a different generation that considered profanity rude. And she definitely wouldn't put up with her teenage granddaughter swearing. I'd have gotten my mouth washed out with soap.

    Remember, I'm an old lady myself - 49. When I grew up, it was a big "no no" to swear. And I don't tolerate it in my own kids.

    I realize times have changed - I'm just not convinced it is a good change.

    Just call me an old fogey.

    steph
  10. by   kileen
    I'd advise take what you can use from the lectures . Don't concentrate so much on the presenter. If you do this you will have problems getting along with people in your entire life. All people have their ideosyncracies. Accept them for who they are (and what they have to offer).
    A saying I like to remind myself of is 'examine your life for the traits you find most irriatating in others.' In other words, concentrate on improving yourself because there is where you will notice the change and this is where you can truly make a difference.
    All the best.
  11. by   teeituptom
    Quote from ExTechie
    Last week in our first 4 hour lecture with our Psych instructor (2nd yr NS) she apologized up front if she offends anyone because she is used to letting the "F" word fly and hopes it won't be a problem.

    She also told us a simple way to remember the SE for cholinergic drugs:

    Can't See
    Can't Pee
    Can't Spit
    Can't Sh*t.

    Am I being too touchy or is this extremely unprofessional coming from an instructor???

    In addition to that (if that isn't enough), we were told it was against the rules to eat or drink in this classroom that is being loaned to us (by DON). If any of us are caught violating the rules, we can lose the classroom. The first night of instruction, this same instructor was 1/2 hr into her lecture and made the announcement that she cannot teach for 4 hours without water and proceeded to get her drink and brought it to the podium. Now many students are bringing in coffee, pepsi and food. Do I rat??? I am so uncomfortable. Please help.

    Now what disturbs you in here, or are you just maybe a little to sensitive
  12. by   pagandeva2000
    Quote from Marie_LPN
    I don't see the F word as being a big deal, but that's just me, and i rarely use it myself.

    The food thing, we have a rule at our school about no food and drink, but hey, if i'm coming straight from working 10-12 hours, i AM going to eat (quietly of course) and drink something during class, and if they want to kick me out for that, go right ahead. I'm not going to dehydrate over some stupid rule.


    (OH, yeah, and the reference about profanity being audible ignorance, well i guess i'm just as stupid as they get then :stone )
    I had a rough schedule in school, where we had a lecture from 9 to 1 and then lab from 5-9. Then, the instructor told us that she had to change the schedule to where we had an hour break, then come back at 2-6:30. If she told the class that they could not have water, they would have rightfully mobbed her. We would have an evening class that ended at 10:00 pm that following semester and yet have to return to class the following morning at 9:00am, then at 1:00 pm, we had to travel to our evening clinical rotation site (that was NOT close) by 3:00 on the DOT. Shucks, we ate in that class, too. And, I was one that was cussing (under my breath) out of fatigue, and who knows who actually heard me, or who else was cursing, even out loud!?
  13. by   pagandeva2000
    Quote from RN/MSN/JD
    ...You will be called so many kind of XXX by your patients you will lose count. And some will need to be asked whether or XXX because they don't know any other word for it.
    Yes, yes, yes.... eventually, you become numb to the names that the patients, families and even other staff members may call you.
    Last edit by sirI on Sep 9, '06 : Reason: quoted edited post

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