Clinical Groups? Please tell me they change!! - page 2
Hey all this is my 1st post here I started clinicals 2 weeks ago and im scared to death! For 1 I got the jacked up clinical group we are talking LOSERS I dont even know how these people made it this... Read More
Jan 29, '07I understand what you're saying. There's a few who got into my nursing program and I'm wondering how too. But I decided from Day 1 to be nice with everyone. Nice to some people means conversations; with others it means a "hello".
My clinicals change every semester b/c our names are picked out of a hat and the first name chosen has top pick at one of the four clinical sites. But most in my group now said they would like to be with eachother for the next 2 years.
I don't like slackers, but we can't complain so I do my part. The others that don't do the work are usually found out!
Jan 29, '07We change every semester also...our class is broken down into several clinical groups and since hospital assignments change, so does the group....
I loved my group last semester, but was not so crazy about this new group..one gal is from my last group (yeah!); 4 are people I have talked to outside of class, haven't been close to, but liked; and 2 are know-it-alls...they're the ones that will drive me nuts...but as was pointed out above, you're usually so busy, you don't have a lot of time to interact...except when the know-it-alls come by to see how you're doing....grrrrrrr...but it was funny last week when one of them came by and got done looking over my shoulder at MY charting, she said, "OH! I forgot to chart that; I'll be back" Needless to say, since it was time to go home, I was out of there...
I think the best part of having a good clinical group is knowing that someone's got your back....everyone's helping each other out and trying to do whatever we can to see we each make it through the day...I hope your group grows on you and that you end up having a good clinical experience!!
Jan 29, '07Wow...
Well, to answer your question, our mostly stayed the same, there were a few changes due to people dropping/failing, or re-entering. But as a whole, no there was no change other than instructors.
Next....my advice, although you did not ask for it...
Take a moment and realize that maybe some of your classmates have no previous clinical experience, this is all new to them. So, they may not be as savvy as others. Trust me, someday in clinical you are going to need help/advice/someone to talk to, so don't burn your bridges by making hasty judgements on others. In clincial, you are responsible for your own performance. No one else in your class has bearing on this. Please understand, how well your clinical mates are doing or not doing does NOT reflect on your abilities. Next...you need to realize too that your instructor will most likely be evaluating you on your ability to get along and/or help others. This is a BIG part of being a team, something you must be able to do well once you are a nurse. Learn this lesson now before you get out in the real world of nursing, and my advice is to learn it well. When you are a new grad you will realized how little you really learned in school. You will have to rely on the other nurses to guide you. Imagine how you would feel if they branded you a "loser" within your first two weeks on the unit.
Please don't take this as an attack, it is not meant as such in any way. Just step back, re-read your post and think about it. You will need to have non-judgemental abilities as a nurse, and I am just saying, now is the best time to learn it.
Best of luck to you...
Jan 29, '07How large is your school? Do you have more than one group in your semester? If so, I would think there is a good possibility that there will be at least some mixing in the next semester.
Jan 29, '07If you are so quick to judge your classmates as losers, I wonder how successful you will be at providing compassionate care for patients who might not be as "cool" as you are?
Jan 29, '07I had the same problem with a few of my clinical groups. Luckily, ours changed for each rotation. For my last group before graduation, I had the lazy one, the pushy one, the one who freaked out over everything, and the whiner. I had one good classmate in there. I really have no idea how they will survive in a real job. I feel bad for their future preceptor. Makes my sudder to think about it, actually. I agree with ktwlpn, though, you'll look way good. And, for the record, I did try to be non-judgemental, but they were truly just plain sub-standard.
Jan 29, '07I agree with those who say your judgement of them so quickly is out of line.
You need a chance to get to know people before you call them "losers."
And, you will be "stuck" with people you don't really like throughout your life... different units, etc. so get used to it now.
Focus on your attitude and your patients, and PASSING your nursing classes, not what "losers" you are stuck with...
Why do you go to ? To learn how to become a competent nurse, yes? How do those in your clinical group change that? They don't. So focus on the issue at hand... and remember, attitude is everything (go in with an attitude like that and you won't get far...)
Jan 29, '07Why are you so fast to judge these people? Do you know them outside of class? Everyone has a different story, and everyone deserves a chance. Obviously, these so called "losers" have done just as much as you have to get accepted into the program.
Jan 29, '07Quote from JulielpnWhy don't you give 'em a chance before you make judgements on others.
Maybe they feel the same way about you.
Jan 29, '07I found that in my clinical group we had some very obnoxious people who really seem to be idiots, so i thought, but as time went on and got to know where each other was coming from I found out alot of the obnoxiousness was actually coming from me. Those I thought were idiots were really smart,but just terrified like me and i learned alot from these people as well as they from me. We are now good friends and spend alot of time together. Anyway my point is give everyone a chance to know one another before harsh judgement is thrown. You may be missing out on quality knowledge and a good friend that you will need to pass your clinicals. Instructors often pair clinicals with people who would not normaly get along just to see how well you can adjust under stress. GOOD LUCK!!!!!
Jan 29, '07You know, clinicals are kind of like the real world. You meet some people that you like, some you can tolerate, and some you can't stand. I learned not to wear my feelings for other people in my clinical groups on my shoulder. To be kind to everyone, polite, and helpful on the unit. You might be surprised that the "losers" that you are referring to may be really nervous and just acting different than they normally would. One thing is a guarantee, if you act like they are losers and don't give them a chance, you WILL NOT like them. Mainly because they will not like you. Remember, you reap what you sow. If you spread animousity, distrust, and think lowly of the other students, you will not get along with them. Try something during the next clinical. Try starting a polite conversation with another student. Reach out and take a chance. If you get shot down, do it again with another one. I bet that you will find that they are not nearly as bad as you think they are.
Jan 30, '07Feeling compelled here to add my 2cents. So here it goes: first quarter I was the person who was acting oddly in lab and class...I was under so much stress at the time it is amazing that I survived it. Then our clinical groups were chosen, and my clinical group gelled as a group without me...in fact they talked about me in post-conference (that was held at a restaurant that I could not afford to eat at because I am a single mom and can't work enough hours and don't get any child support)...which was then repeated to me by one of the more "helpful" classmates.
My clinical group completely ostracized me and I was robbed of opportunities to consult the other students, some of whom worked as techs in hospitals, about all things from little to big (where do they keep the thermometer covers....can you assist me with a lift, stuff like that.)
If that wasn't bad enough, I got sick about 2 weeks into quarter which then turned into pneumonia...and it lasted almost all quarter. I never stopped coming to class, I never stopped going to clinical, I passed every single test and hung in there...and now 2nd quarter, it's coming together in my head at lightning fast speed and I'm excelling and loving it.
I never let on to my old clinical group that I knew they were discussing me in such detail (when I wasn't around of course)...I refused to give them the satisfaction of knowing that they hurt me very deeply by their behaviors.
So now here is 2nd quarter...and my new clinical group is awesome...they're grown-up adults who are there to learn, and we've formed a cohesive unit....and those folks from my old clinical group? Well...what goes around comes around, kwim? Not too many people want to associate with them and their holier-than-thou attitudes...
So please just be patient with your clinical group...you never know who climbs a mountain before they get out of bed in the morning...and the person to whom you extend your hand in kindness today will probably have your back tomorrow. And that's worth it's weight in gold.
Hang in there...and smile.
Moonjumper - student nurse