Can our medical histories be used against us? - page 3

This may seem like a silly question, but since I truly don't know the answer, I'll ask anyway! :chuckle A student friend of mine wondered about our medical histories and if it would have any... Read More

  1. by   pattik9898
    nothing is private anymore. everyone is at risk that has a medical procedure covered by insurance
    Last edit by pattik9898 on Mar 20, '04 : Reason: too opinionated
  2. by   Energizer Bunny
    I was diagnosed with severe depression and PTSD years ago and was on meds. the last time they accepted me. I am no longer suffering from either and am not on medication. I sincerely hope that at this point, they wouldn't use that against me in any situation. Frankly, I think anyone who is receiving help for their illness should not be discriminated against.

    Kim
  3. by   pattik9898
    Quote from CNM2B
    I was diagnosed with severe depression and PTSD years ago and was on meds. the last time they accepted me. I am no longer suffering from either and am not on medication. I sincerely hope that at this point, they wouldn't use that against me in any situation. Frankly, I think anyone who is receiving help for their illness should not be discriminated against.

    Kim
    good to hear you are better. hope things work out for you. i still feel it dangerous to let anyone know your hx. i agree with the guy that says they are breaking the law by simply asking you about your hx. and we who have "histories" need to protect ourselves. you have no control over how that info can be used....all the laws put in place cannot circumvent human nature.

    patti
  4. by   Energizer Bunny
    Okay, so here's my question...is there any way what-so-ever for anyone to find out your medical history without you relating it to them? There "shouldn't" be by law correct? But are there ways to get around that?
  5. by   z's playa
    Quote from wannaBEanRN
    I have to fill out a health form for my admission in September, plus have a physical, with the required TB tests and immunizations.

    I'm also an insulin-dependant diabetic. I've never hidden that from anyone (heck, I wear a pump, and though it looks like a beeper, it surely isn't), and won't start now either. I'm well-controlled, and I know that I cannot be discriminated against because of it. That MAY still happen, but they'll have a fight on their hands if it does.

    I also take meds for migraines. 99% of the time my Migranal spray works for them, or even 800 mg of ibuprofen. But I do have a script for a narcotic in case all other meds fail me, which they do about once a month. Of course I would never take it while doing clinicals, or even driving, but I feel that it is prescribed for a certain reason, and there is no reason to hide it.

    My advice is not to lie. I would think that would get someone into more trouble than being honest.

    I was wondering about that. I've needed to go to the ER for narcotic pain control 3 times for migraines in the past year and I will be asking for a script for narcotics as well to avoid the hospital (as I'm sure you know why) Well what happens if you've taken or been administered say your demerol,morphine, codeine or whatever, and coincidentally the floor goes short 50 or 100 mg of EXACTLY what you've taken in the past 24 to 48 hours...obviously the urine screen will come up positive...is your career over ? Has this happened to anyone? I'll start a new thread if nobody responds because this I need to know. But wouldn't it be awesome if I never got another migriane again and avoided meds all together? sigh. What bliss that would be.
  6. by   pattik9898
    Quote from CNM2B
    Okay, so here's my question...is there any way what-so-ever for anyone to find out your medical history without you relating it to them? There "shouldn't" be by law correct? But are there ways to get around that?
    there are laws. hippa. but this is not fully in place
    Last edit by pattik9898 on Mar 20, '04 : Reason: incorrect info?
  7. by   pattik9898
    Quote from z's playa
    I was wondering about that. I've needed to go to the ER for narcotic pain control 3 times for migraines in the past year and I will be asking for a script for narcotics as well to avoid the hospital (as I'm sure you know why) Well what happens if you've taken or been administered say your demerol,morphine, codeine or whatever, and coincidentally the floor goes short 50 or 100 mg of EXACTLY what you've taken in the past 24 to 48 hours...obviously the urine screen will come up positive...is your career over ? Has this happened to anyone? I'll start a new thread if nobody responds because this I need to know. But wouldn't it be awesome if I never got another migriane again and avoided meds all together? sigh. What bliss that would be.
    no, you nut. you have been given a script for the pain killer right? you come up positive on a urine it is from the script. so what if the dope goes missing? you're in the clear. unless you took it from the floor......
  8. by   z's playa
    Quote from pattik9898
    no, you nut. you have been given a script for the pain killer right? you come up positive on a urine it is from the script. so what if the dope goes missing? you're in the clear. unless you took it from the floor......

    Nut?!?........thanks...

    Understand that I get the "look" when I need the ER temporarily, I'm just thinking of what it could be like when I'm there all day and may have to deal with the "look" again for a different but related problem. yeah I know. suck it up. I just worry. I do feel better after your post. I wouldn't even even touch the pt's cracker supply
  9. by   Energizer Bunny
    I am almost positive that when I gave my health history in 2001 when I went for a semester and was preparing to enter the RN program that I already told them about the depression. PTSD isn't necessarily "cured". I think it is all in how you handle it and my way of thinking is totally different than what it used to be regarding the situation I was having the PTSD about...does that makes sense? :chuckle

    Anyways, in this instance, I am probably better off telling them the truth since I don't remember what in the world I told them before. I will not, however disclose anything that I am SURE they don't need to know. I think it's getting a bit too personal and if I am in no danger of harming anyone then I don't think they need to know.

    I never in my life considered harming another person....and can't imagine ever consciously doing so.
  10. by   Ruylupez
    If you are currently on medication it is probably best to list it on any forms that ask just in case you have to go through drug screening.

    One of the hospitals where we do clinicals does drug screenings on everyone who is going to be working there, including students who are there to do clinicals. One student in my class was dropped from the program because he failed that screening and couldn't explain why he had the drugs in his system.


    What happened years ago is none of their business as long as it isn't a problem for you anymore.
    Last edit by Ruylupez on Mar 18, '04
  11. by   BabyRN2Be
    Quote from kbella126
    I was told by my PA father & RN mother that you don't tell them anything.....If I were you, I wouldn't take any chances by telling them you are taking "whatever". :uhoh21:
    This is so true. We have a saying in aviation (I'm working on my private pilot's certificate) regarding medicals - "No Lie, No Fly". This applies to the general aviation field. In the commercial field they do a little more checking up on you.
  12. by   BabyRN2Be
    This whole thread has me very concerned. I'm on a chronic pain management program through my MD. I have arthritis and an auto-immune disorder. The meds allow me to have a semblance of a life when other pain control methods have failed. If I go for a tox screen for either entry to nursing programs or a job and they see those meds in my system, could I seriously be refused a job? That would be so sad after all the hard work of nursing school.

    I mean, if I feel I can handle the work and my doc says I can, not a danger to any of my pts? What's the problem? Would they rather have to support me on SSI or welfare the rest of my life?

    This has happened to me before at a lower level entry healthcare job, and I don't want it to happen again. I tried to sue the facility, but was unsuccessful due to a mistake on the lawyer's part (long story). I want to work as a nurse! This is important to me. Has anyone been through this before? If I'm taking prescription narcotics would they show up in a tox screen?

    I feel like I'm saying too much as it is.
  13. by   nurseshawna
    so what about the fbi check that you have to have done? is that mainly a criminal background check? is there anyway they could see what is going on in your health situations?

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