Bringing your *new* baby to school.... - page 6

Problem here all....recent member of class had a baby. Now, so far our school has been VERY strict about pretty much everything. Now, I understand that this student is a single mother, on assistance... Read More

  1. by   Lisa CCU RN
    Quote from charlies
    I think it is just rude to the other students. I am glad these shenanigans don't go on at my school.
    I give up. There are a lot ruder things.
  2. by   klone
    It means they've found that when the moms are allowed to bring their babies to work with them, they actually have increased productivity (and fewer sick days) than if the infant is childcare.

    The AZ Dept. of Health allows this for their new moms, and it's worked quite well. Needless to say, it makes for very happy employees and less job turnover.
  3. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    This is nursing school, though, the workplace is somewhat of a different ballpark.



    (Bedtime)
  4. by   Lisa CCU RN
    [QUOTE=Marie_LPN]This is nursing school, though, the workplace is somewhat of a different ballpark.



    My last post on this topic. There should be free daycare for all working mothers and fathers and students attending school. Why? because as it has been so clearly stated in this thread people have to work and they can't work at jobs that will support them if they have no education. you can wait until you are 30 or 40 or whatever to have a child, but life still happens and you may end up needing daycare to go to work. We can't all stop having kids just to be able to have career--the population will decline and seeing how over half of marriages end in divorce, there is always going to be a single mom without a babysitter. It's a catch 22--damned if you do damned if you don't. ( I hope I can say that) .
  5. by   luvmy2angels
    Just for the record I would like to let you all know that think we as a class have no compassion for our fellow classmate that WE as a CLASS spent over $400 to buy her diapers, clothes, A CRIB, car seat and tons of other things. As far as breast feeding goes I know a lot of women who pump so to me that is not an excuse to have to bring the baby to school. She is on assistance and makes it well known that pretty much everything is paid for her INCLUDING school, she IS allowed to take maternity leave and still get all her benefits and school paid for. I have 2 children of my own and KNOW how hard it can be, my husband and I had to file bankrptcy this year because we also had things happen, but no one came together and gave US money. I missed days of class because my husband was in the hospital and couldn't find anyone to watch my children, I wasn't given the opportunity to bring them to class, instead not only did I have to make up the time but had pay $300 for each day I missed!?!?!?! Something doesn't seem right to me. Call me uncompassinate if you like but I think sometimes people get used to "they system" and expect everyone to cater to them because they have it "so bad". Well, we have had it bad too so don't think for a minute that I don't know what it is like!!
  6. by   z's playa
    Quote from luvmy2angels
    Just for the record I would like to let you all know that think we as a class have no compassion for our fellow classmate that WE as a CLASS spent over $400 to buy her diapers, clothes, A CRIB, car seat and tons of other things. As far as breast feeding goes I know a lot of women who pump so to me that is not an excuse to have to bring the baby to school. She is on assistance and makes it well known that pretty much everything is paid for her INCLUDING school, she IS allowed to take maternity leave and still get all her benefits and school paid for. I have 2 children of my own and KNOW how hard it can be, my husband and I had to file bankrptcy this year because we also had things happen, but no one came together and gave US money. I missed days of class because my husband was in the hospital and couldn't find anyone to watch my children, I wasn't given the opportunity to bring them to class, instead not only did I have to make up the time but had pay $300 for each day I missed!?!?!?! Something doesn't seem right to me. Call me uncompassinate if you like but I think sometimes people get used to "they system" and expect everyone to cater to them because they have it "so bad". Well, we have had it bad too so don't think for a minute that I don't know what it is like!!

    ((((((((((((((hugs))))))))))))))))))))

    Z
  7. by   devi
    Quote from klone
    Eh, I guess I just don't get the "if she can do it, why can't I??" attitude. Maybe I don't see things so black and white, but I guess I see that as kind of a child's mentality, where everything must be exactly equal among all the siblings or you hear cries of "That's not faaaaaaaairrrrrr!!" Yeah, I'd love to bring my children to class on days when they don't have school, or their school gets a snow day. But I *can* make other arrangements, so I do. I'm not going to begrudge the mom of the newborn who hasn't figured out arrangements yet (but who presumably is working on it). Different circumstances require different solutions. As long as the baby is not distracting me in class, my life and my schooling are not affected by whether this woman brings her newborn into lecture with her for the next month, so I guess I just don't get what the big deal is.
    See, I don't really blame the mothers who would feel it was unfair. They would have the right to expect the same concession because it would be as beneficial for them as it is for the student bringing her baby to class, and they are paying the same tuition as she is. I don't think the cries of "unfair" would rise unless or until their own request to bring their children was denied...which the school would have a hard time justifying once one student has already been given permission.
  8. by   klone
    Okay, now I'm really confused. Is this a person that several of you here know? Gosh, now I feel like I'm gossipping about someone that is known by several posters. This feels icky to me.
  9. by   SoulShine75
    Quote from luvmy2angels
    Problem here all....recent member of class had a baby. Now, so far our school has been VERY strict about pretty much everything. Now, I understand that this student is a single mother, on assistance and struggling (well, who isn't nowadays). But anyways she was recently told by our instructor that she can bring her baby to class with her so she doesn't have to miss time. We have class one night a week and we ALWAYS have a test that night because the rest of the week we are in clinical. A lot of the students are complaining that it is distracting, granted she is pretty quiet for the most part but she gets passed around from person to person to be held for the 5 hours we are there and it IS distracting! Plus there are people in class that have had to miss class time because of "children" problems, babysitter couldn't come or whatever....these students feel it is unfair that she was given the choice to BRING her baby to class but others missed time! Something just isn't right about this situation. I don't want to sound like a mean person because I DO want to see her succeed and finish school but at the same time COME ON!!!!!! :angryfire Am I wrong for feeling this way????
    I, personally, don't see anything wrong with this as long as she's been told it's temporary until she can get a sitter. BUT I think she needs to try her best to keep baby quiet and I think passing the baby around is a distraction to others. As long as she doesn't take advantage of it, but uses this time to locate some other assistance I don't think it's a huge deal. Everyone needs a break sometimes, and like someone else said...maybe there's more to the story.

    JMO
  10. by   Fun2, RN, BSN
    I can understand where you are coming from now. I can't stand the "you owe it to me" attitude.

    I am sorry so many things have happened in your life. I hope they get better.

    Try privately talking to your instructor. She/he may not realize that anyone has a problem with the situation.

    However, I do think you need to work on the way you handle your feelings. There will always be people that get spoon fed, being angry about it only hurts you. Is it the fact she is bringing her baby to class that is upsetting you, or is it the fact that she is getting all this help and attention and no one helped you when you were down?

    Good luck. If nothing else helps, hopefully it will only be temporary, and not the whole sememster. (If the whole semester, then hopefully it will be only this semester.)

    Quote from luvmy2angels
    Just for the record I would like to let you all know that think we as a class have no compassion for our fellow classmate that WE as a CLASS spent over $400 to buy her diapers, clothes, A CRIB, car seat and tons of other things. As far as breast feeding goes I know a lot of women who pump so to me that is not an excuse to have to bring the baby to school. She is on assistance and makes it well known that pretty much everything is paid for her INCLUDING school, she IS allowed to take maternity leave and still get all her benefits and school paid for. I have 2 children of my own and KNOW how hard it can be, my husband and I had to file bankrptcy this year because we also had things happen, but no one came together and gave US money. I missed days of class because my husband was in the hospital and couldn't find anyone to watch my children, I wasn't given the opportunity to bring them to class, instead not only did I have to make up the time but had pay $300 for each day I missed!?!?!?! Something doesn't seem right to me. Call me uncompassinate if you like but I think sometimes people get used to "they system" and expect everyone to cater to them because they have it "so bad". Well, we have had it bad too so don't think for a minute that I don't know what it is like!!
    Last edit by Fun2, RN, BSN on Oct 21, '05
  11. by   casi
    I've seen kids in classes on emergency basis with approval from a teacher. I've also had a teacher bring her son to class (this teacher came to the final 3cm dialated and having contractions too... but that's another story). I don't mind that. I know that sh*t happens. I understand the teacher allowing her to bring the baby to class on a temporary basis, but this woman should be actively searching for childcare. If she is on assistance, she can get free childcare too. Children in classrooms are VERY distracting. You can only help so much.
  12. by   moonbeamsmom
    I had a friend who did this. It wasn't a big deal. I applaud women who are single mothers and are finding the strength to go through nursing school. I am married and it's still hard! I agree with all the remarks about having more compassion.
  13. by   Jessy_RN
    Quote from luvmy2angels
    Just for the record I would like to let you all know that think we as a class have no compassion for our fellow classmate that WE as a CLASS spent over $400 to buy her diapers, clothes, A CRIB, car seat and tons of other things. As far as breast feeding goes I know a lot of women who pump so to me that is not an excuse to have to bring the baby to school. She is on assistance and makes it well known that pretty much everything is paid for her INCLUDING school, she IS allowed to take maternity leave and still get all her benefits and school paid for. I have 2 children of my own and KNOW how hard it can be, my husband and I had to file bankrptcy this year because we also had things happen, but no one came together and gave US money. I missed days of class because my husband was in the hospital and couldn't find anyone to watch my children, I wasn't given the opportunity to bring them to class, instead not only did I have to make up the time but had pay $300 for each day I missed!?!?!?! Something doesn't seem right to me. Call me uncompassinate if you like but I think sometimes people get used to "they system" and expect everyone to cater to them because they have it "so bad". Well, we have had it bad too so don't think for a minute that I don't know what it is like!!

    You folks are all so kind and sweet. :angel2:

    Still stand by my opinion and believe she should not bring her child to school. Call me uncompassionate too and whatever but I do belive that if NOW is not the time for you to handle life and school then wait until latter times. I had to do it..............heck many of my classmates waited til their children grew up to go back to school and pursue their dream.

    I too understand that no one chooses to be a single parent etc.
    Life happens but you have to be willing to accept and deal with whatever life throws at you. You can get help and should but the rest of the world should not feel responsible. If she does it then everyone should be able to bring their children to school too.

    I feel bad/sorry for her but she is not in a life or death situation. She needs to seek childcare help and/or take time off school until she is prepared to go back.

    Again, judge however you wish, but I stand by my opinion.
    Last edit by Jessy_RN on Oct 21, '05

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