Bio: A&P I - page 2

I am wondering, for all of those who have taken A&P I, who has taken it online and who took it in the classroom? And what were the pros and cons of both?? I am trying to decide which route to go... Read More

  1. by   KBnursestudent
    oh and I almost forgot to say, our A&P I &II are not just 4 credits. They are 6 credits each. The lecture is 4 and the lab is another 2. we spend 6 hours a week in class. We go for one night for 6 hours. each week for the whole semester.
  2. by   klone
    Quote from KBnursestudent
    I can honestly say you will need to do more than only 4 hrs a week of studying to make it. Liek I said, I got a 99% for my final grade in Human bio and I did not even have to try at all. I spent about 1 hour maybe 1.5 hr in study time for taht class and yet A&P id a killer for me. But all i can say is you'll see what works for you. Just a little of my 2 cents. hope it helps.
    Thanks for the additional info. Believe me, I wasn't deluding myself that A&P would be as easy as Human Bio has been for me. I'm prepared to spend as much as 15-20 hours/week studying for it. But I'll also be taking Fundamentals of Nursing at the same time, and at some point you just have to budget your time in other areas, and if it means losing my 4.0 and settling for a B or C in that class, so be it. Since I won't be taking it through my home school, it won't count towards my GPA, anyway.
  3. by   Sheri257
    Quote from KBnursestudent
    for anyone taking Human Bio and have not taken A&P yet, please understand that A&P is sooo very different than Human Bio. They are nothing alike and A&P is so much harder.
    Not true at my school. Human Bio was very tough, just as tough as A and P. Many people flunked out of it. This Human Bio course was designed to cover much of the same material to help prepare you for the other courses (and, quite frankly, to help the school weed out people who aren't cut out for nursing.) It even helped me with Micro, since it covered some of that material too.

    So, I think it also depends upon the individual school and how they design the course work.

    Last edit by Sheri257 on Apr 12, '04
  4. by   Sheri257
    Quote from klone
    80 hours a week STUDYING? For ONE 4-credit class? I'm sorry, that's just ridiculous.
    It's even more ridiculous to believe such a claim. Just like people love to claim they work 80 hour weeks. People always exaggerate these numbers so they can say, "See how hard I work?" It's usually BS.

    Quite frankly, I have no idea how many hours a week I study. I mean, does anybody really keep a precise count? I don't.

    Last edit by Sheri257 on Apr 12, '04
  5. by   RedSox33RN
    Quote from lizz
    It's even more ridiculous to believe such a claim. Just like people love to claim they work 80 hour weeks. People always exaggerate these numbers so they can say, "See how hard I work?" It's usually BS.

    Quite frankly, I have no idea how many hours a week I study. I mean, does anybody really keep a precise count? I don't.

    I'm with you. Sounds like this person has to "out-do" everyone else. I know people studying to become doctors that don't put in 80 hours a week studying. Next this person will be saying they're the Pope.......
  6. by   Energizer Bunny
    I took it a couple years ago and couldn't imagine not having the hands on experience of the lab work and the face-to-face interaction with the instructor. There are some classes that work great online (I took a math one) but this is not one of them in my opinion!
  7. by   sabine_rn
    Just do the math...80hrs/wk = 11.4something hrs./day PLUS school, driving, studying for other(!) classes...? yeah, right...
    It's the quality of study time--not quantity. I have plenty of ppl. in my class, who after failing a test ( including the simple stuff), cry "but I studied!"
    imho :uhoh21:
  8. by   Achoo!
    I'm taking A&P I now. It takes me about 3 hours per chapter to write down the vocabulary, then the hours of review. The lab portion doesn't take me as long since I do alot of reviewing in class. I'd say about 8 hours a week and I am getting a solid A. I have to say it would be terribly difficult without lecture though. Having things put in laymans helps ALOT.
  9. by   mitchsmom
    I took A&P I & II and the labs online. I know it sounds wacky but I thought they were really good and I learned a lot. They were challenging and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone who isn't very self-directed and motivated. I got A's but it took a lot of work and I'm sort of glad now because nursing students really need to know anatomy and physiology obviously.

    They were simply not available to me when I needed them, plus I had a new baby at home so it helped me a lot. I wouldn't be in the BSN program this year if I hadn't done it that way. Mine was through St. Petersburg College in Florida, the teachers also taught in real life A&P classes and I think the online versions were structured as much the same as possible. For lab we used a bunch of pictures of slides, a physioEx lab simulations CD-ROM, and more. I had to take the midterm and finals with a proctor (we could go to St. Pete College to do it or if you lived far away like me you could arrange it at the testing center at your local college, which I did.)

    As a matter of fact, you can look at some of the material for my A&P II here:
    http://www.spjc.cc.fl.us/SPG/Science...1086/index.htm
    You can see the slides, "lecture notes", etc.
    Last edit by mitchsmom on Apr 12, '04
  10. by   momof38160
    Quote from sabine_rn
    I'm taking A&P I in class now, and eventhough I usually do very well with online classes, I can not even imagine doing A&P online! I love sitting in the lab, bones etc. all around me and able to "touch" stuff. Also, smart people--the ones I stick to like glue--can really help you out. we usually "drill" eachother in class, especially before a test. I got a 98% average with only the final left, so I can only advice you to take it "live".
    Where are you taking A&P. I'm also in NC. I'm taking a 6 week course of A&P1 at Meredith in the summer because I couldn't get into the community colleges. I'm a little worried, everyone I speak to says its hard.
  11. by   dansamy
    Just like people love to claim they work 80 hour weeks.
    I know at my husband's employer a 'normal' week is 50 hours. 60 if things are busy. If the plane is late, the whole crew goes to mandatory 6 12-hour shifts per week. That's 72 hours per week, but they only do it when there's a really bad crunch to get the plane launched on time.
  12. by   KBnursestudent
    Quote from lizz
    Not true at my school. Human Bio was very tough, just as tough as A and P. Many people flunked out of it. This Human Bio course was designed to cover much of the same material to help prepare you for the other courses (and, quite frankly, to help the school weed out people who aren't cut out for nursing.) It even helped me with Micro, since it covered some of that material too.

    So, I think it also depends upon the individual school and how they design the course work.

    well I do have to say that a lot of people flunked out the Human Bio class I took as well. It was not easy for many students. I just found it easy. we did cover everything from A&P stuff to micro but it sure was not at all as in depth as A&P I and II are. All the extra depth taht our school goes inot for A&P I and II makes it a lot of work and study time to learn all you need to learn. Our school also have a passing rate for the NCLEX of 85%. That is one of the highest in the country. We have a tough program. Maybe your program will not be as tough so you will not have to put in as much study time.
  13. by   KBnursestudent
    Quote from lizz
    It's even more ridiculous to believe such a claim. Just like people love to claim they work 80 hour weeks. People always exaggerate these numbers so they can say, "See how hard I work?" It's usually BS.

    Quite frankly, I have no idea how many hours a week I study. I mean, does anybody really keep a precise count? I don't.

    To be honest, I do keep a precise count. My prof told us at the beginning of A&PI taht we would need to put in a minimum of 2 hours study time for every hour of class we have per week. She said that may get you a C average and we are in this one particular class anywhere between 5-6 hrs a week. I want to do everthing my prof says to do as she is very intelligent and went through school at one time herself so I take taht she is experienced and knows what she is talking about. she has given a ton of great advice and I will do anything she asks us to do to help with our grades and studyng to retain info.
    I have another class i am taking at this time as well. and taht class I am pulling an A in. It is not as hard as A&P. it is only Human growth and development but I still have homework every week for taht class and research papers and all. I am also a mom of 2 small children not in school yet and I stay home with them. I have a husband who is very demanding and so I am a very busy person. But yet, I still try to get in all the study time I can. I even go to the open labs on Sat. so I get an extra 3 hours on that day every week of lab study time. It is possible to study 40 hrs a week. I stay up til about 4 am every night and i am up at 7:30am so if you count the time from 11:00pm to 4:00am that I study ever night but Sunday that is 5 hrs a night x 6 nights=30 hrs right there. plus all the time I spend during the kids nap times which is about 2 hours a day for 6 days a week=12+30=42 hrs a week now taht I have and that is minimal. I study more when exams come around. I bring my books outside with me while the kids are playing in the back yard and I study while in the car driving around as I tape record all my note and listen to them in the car. It is very possible even with a busyy schedual to fit in 40+hrs a week of study time and do well.

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