Atheist Professers - page 6

:confused: Hi everyone! I'm kind of new here, and I have a question: Right now I'm in A&P and my professor is an all out atheist. I realized when I decided to go the nursing route I would... Read More

  1. by   Sleepyeyes
    Originally posted by sbic56
    Do Christians actually believe they will get converts by pushing their beliefs on the "nonbelievers"? I just don't understand this tactic. Where there is no proof that God exists, wouldn't it make much more sense and create alot less hostile feelings toward Christians if the believers just let people be and accept religion on their own? Do Christians believe because someone forced it on them? I really doubt it.
    I don't want to stray too far off topic here...but since it appears we already have....

    I owe my Christianity to a nutso girlfriend of mine who kept annoying me (a pagan/wiccan) with "testimonies."

    One night we were hitchhiking to a downtown watering hole/pickup joint, and she said, "I need a husband. I'm praying for a husband! God, please get me a husband."

    I shook my head. "You might as well pray to that telephone pole, Linda; there is no God."

    She knelt down and said, "I won't pray to the telephone pole, but I'll pray to God, right here and now..." and she did.

    I was sooo embarrassed.
    But on Monday, she got a phone call from an old high school buddy. And they were married within the year.

    And when my marriage was on the rocks, some of the things she was saying, began to make sense. I realized then that I had been "culturally brainwashed" to believe that I shouldn't need a man, that abortion was ok, that God was dead.

    Had she not been such a good friend, I never would've tolerated her emotional outbursts of "witnessing." And I'd be a very miserable person today--if I survived that abusive marriage at all.

    Not trying to convert anyone....just trying to say that you never know if someone's going to witness to someone and suddenly it all makes sense like never before. It happened to me, it's happened to a lot of people.

    And frankly, I don't see what the heck is so bad about getting a tract on your doorstep. Someone from this board has registered me for free porno stuff from various websites, and all I have to do is hit the delete button, or censor that horoscope, or not watch the latest horror flick, or whatever..... not a big deal. We all do it all the time. At least Christianity is not as big a ripoff as those $1500 vaccuum cleaners they keep trying to sell me.
  2. by   OBNURSEHEATHER
    Originally posted by Sleepyeyes
    Someone from this board has registered me for free porno stuff from various websites
    WHAT?

    Heather
  3. by   Sleepyeyes
    yeah....remember the thread where we talked about free porno websites??? gee whatta coincidence, i'm now signed up for all kinds of them.

    I keep gettting, "thanks for registering" messages for them.
  4. by   sbic56
    cheerfuldoer

    No disrepect, but atheists and agnostics rarely push their beliefs...that is my point.
  5. by   sbic56
    And frankly, I don't see what the heck is so bad about getting a tract on your doorstep. Someone from this board has registered me for free porno stuff from various websites, and all I have to do is hit the delete button, or censor that horoscope, or not watch the latest horror flick, or whatever..... not a big deal. We all do it all the time. At least Christianity is not as big a ripoff as those $1500 vaccuum cleaners they keep trying to sell me.
    Sleepyeyes

    All those unsolicited intrusions you mention above DO bother me and alot of other people. We shouldn't have to accept that it is going to be pushed on us. We can now block those annoying telmarketers with programs that have been invented to keep them from reaching us. I'd be happier if we made a bit more progress in blocking messages that come from a few other sources, too. If I want it...I know where to find it myself. And, to me, Christianity is as big of a rip off as those vacuum cleaners, because unlike a vacuum cleaner, I can't use it.

    I can see where religion gives you comfort and I think that is great for you. I don't mean for this post to sound so harsh. I merely mean to say I want to make my own choices and don't appreciate others interferring, especially when it involves invading the privacy of my home.
  6. by   Sleepyeyes
    No prob, sbic, i've been where you're at too. I don't mean to offend anyone either, ok?
    :kiss
  7. by   sbic56
    peace:kiss
  8. by   Stargazer
    Actually, I never even knew whether my teachers were christian or atheist or *what* they were - the subject never came up! To me, THAT is the essence of professional teaching...
    Um, what pebbles said.

    The only time I knew my college instructors' religious affiliations was when they were actual Jesuit priests or Lutheran ministers--and once, when a hematologist who was, oddly enough, a Jehovah's Witness, came in to lecture my pathophys class on the clotting cascade, and also to explain why JW patients refuse to have blood transfusions.

    Otherwise--not a clue as to religious affiliations--and no reason to wonder. I can't imagine anything more unprofessional than lecturing a captive audience, all of whom need your class to graduate, on your religious beliefs. How completely obnoxious.
  9. by   live4today
    Originally posted by sbic56
    cheerfuldoer

    No disrepect, but atheists and agnostics rarely push their beliefs...that is my point.
    sbic56......no disrespect taken. :kiss However, I will say that nonbelievers that I have encountered DO push their beliefs at me, and have no trouble cursing God's name in my presence.

    You may have not had that experience sibic56.....but it doesn't mean it doesn't exist......because it most certainly does. Thanks for sharing your perspective on that, but don't assume just because you haven't witnessed them doing it that they don't do it.
  10. by   Love-A-Nurse
    originally posted by sbic56
    cheerfuldoer

    no disrepect, but atheists and agnostics rarely push their beliefs...that is my point.
    i am aware renee can speak for herself and your post is indirectly for me.

    christians are so suppose to let their light shine. no, not compel or "push" but let our light of jesus shine in us. this is done, one by not saying one word and another by saying a word.

    atheists do push their beliefs. lets not forget the lastest one, the man who did not want his daughter to say "under god"; this altered what we would like to say in a public arena that depicts what we strongly believe in.
  11. by   AmberNoel
    originally posted by lpn,future, rn
    ......atheists do push their beliefs. lets not forget the lastest one, the man who did not want his daughter to say "under god"; this altered what we would like to say in a public arena that depicts what we strongly believe in.
    who is this "we"? and why does this "we" get to have their god everyone's pledge. what god is the pledge talking about? hmmm? is this not pushing beliefs on all those who do not believe in the christian god? or what if they believe in allah or several other gods? should we be fair and add their name too? the pledge did not originally have "under god" in it. it was added in the 1950's when the us was trying to distance itself from communism.

    amber
  12. by   live4today
    Originally posted by sbic56


    ................... to me, Christianity is as big of a rip off as those vacuum cleaners, because unlike a vacuum cleaner, I can't use it.
    sbic56.........that is what I find to be so sad. People always associate "Religion" and the worldly way of "Christianity" with our Creator. GOD did NOT start the various denominations anymore than Eureka can take credit for every BAD vacuum cleaner on the market! :chuckle

    Seriously speaking.......your statement is written in the way a lot of people feel about "Religion" and "Christianity" because...UNFORTUNATELY...there are so many people who call themselves "Christians" who are not SAVED. Those same individuals gather together in a church building with some denominational title attached to them, and blasphemy the name of our Lord to high heaven.

    I stopped going to the "house of worship" for those very reasons.....God is NOT there when those very same people pass judgment on others in ANY capacity!

    I am NOT religious in the sense of the way the world views religious. I am not 'CHURCHED' in some form of false Christianity. I am a Christian because I believe in and accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior........and nothing more. Everytime I say to someone that I am a Christian......the first dang thing out of their mouth is "I use to go to church"........or "I go to a so-and-so church"........."What church do you go to?".......or "What denomination are you?" DUHHHHHH!!! NONE OF THE ABOVE......DUH!!! :chuckle

    When I say I am a Christian........I am not associating my beliefs with some church or some denomination or some religious group. I ONLY associate my Beliefs with my PERSONAL and SPIRITUAL beliefs in my Creator God......I believe Jesus to be God's Only Begotten Son.....and I believe I am saved......not by my own doing......but by the grace of God through the death and resurrection of His Only Begotten Son....Jesus the Christ. PERIOD!!! I don't care to attend a "church"......but don't mind if other people choose to go to church.

    I was raised in a baptist church, but never "met God" in a church. I met God on a dark scanty road in my life, and He picked me up and embraced me like a real FATHER should embrace His child.......I CHOSE TO SURRENDER my freewill to God...and He has been busy...with my permission.....cleaning me up, changing me for the best me I can be.....and opening my eyes to all the false teachings the bazillion different denominations are so into today. It is because of my personal "dark scanty road" experience, that I no longer attend a church group because my God is a loving God who does NOT turn His nose up at people just because they are "different" or "sinning" or what not. If someone invites me to attend their church with them one particular Sunday...I may go because I am now strong enough to KNOW where my beliefs really lie and come from.

    Would a good father turn his nose up at his child, or treat his child like filth just because the child is doing something "unacceptable by society"???? NO......he wouldn't. Well.....neither does our FATHER GOD turn His nose up at people or make fun of them, or deny them His LOVE just because they misbehave, or choose to live in such a way that is totally opposite of the way God would prefer us to live. Neither would He turn His back on them just because they choose to deny Him as their Father.

    Think about his folks: How many of you...or how many people do you know...who DENY their parentage because their parents do NOT fit their ideal of a parent??? God may not fit your ideal of a parent because you can't prove in a tangible form that He exist. It doesn't mean that He doesn't exist.

    Church groups....their pastors, reverends, and priests PREACH things that "resemble" God's Holy Ways, but all you have to do is WATCH their WALK.......and you will know them by a DIFFERENT name......and that name is NOT of God.

    In my Father's Holy Word....HE tells me that I "will know His own by their walk".......not their talk. Thanks for letting me share from my heart about my own personal belief.......not trying to convert......that's not my place to do so........but if by my WALK you come to believe........then that conversion did NOT come from just what I believe, but from the way I choose to walk in my life. :kiss
    Last edit by live4today on Aug 12, '02
  13. by   sbic56
    Atheists do push their beliefs. Lets not forget the lastest one, the man who did not want his daughter to say "Under God"; this altered what we would like to say in a public arena that depicts what we strongly believe in.
    LPN,Future, RN

    As I said, atheists and agnostics rarely push their beliefs on others. This guy did and it became instant national news, partly because it was so rare to hear an atheist voice their views so vehemently. (Please lets not venture into this one again!!) I understand that Christianity is based on recruitment. That is how it perpetuates itself. As you say, some feel they need to "let their light shine." Good enough; so let me hold my separate beliefs, as well.

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